ball lock fasteners (was "speaking of removingthe seat and side

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "skypilot110" wrote:

> > Has anybody tried to sort out a quick release for the side panels or seat? Seems to me it would be convienient to have them be released more quickly. Maybe even without tools. > > Looks like the seat could easily be converted to quick release pins like the push button t-pins used on military aircraft. Not sure how to do the side panels though >

IRT to the panels: I have. Remove front screw. Remove rear screw. Remove panels. Place panels on shelf or in carboard box. then: Dust motorcycle with dirt. Change Gas. Repeat. immediate access to aircleaner and visual access to lead acid battery fluid levels. revmaaatin. it took three 'lengthy' trips to figure out the side-panels are cosmetic and 'painful'. ps. some have had good results removing the seat bolts and using large patches of velcro to keep the seat positioned.

[Jeff Khoury]

IRT to the panels: I have. Remove front screw. Remove rear screw. Remove panels. Place panels on shelf or in carboard box. then: Dust motorcycle with dirt. Change Gas. Repeat. Rev, I like the cut of your jib.

[Jud]

My solution is to skip the seat retainer bolts. My seat is a dish Corbin, and the tabs don't line up that well with the screw holes anyway. The seat fits in there pretty tightly, and has never yet become dislodged in a tip. I suppose it could do so. With a seat that comes off in seconds, quick removal of the side panels becomes a question that does not need to be asked. If you want to keep asking anyway, then the best answer is probably Dzus fasteners, common on aircraft, race cars and some dirt bikes. These use a slotted stud that locks with a quarter turn onto a piece of spring wire. It may take some time to figure out exactly how you will install them in some locations, while in others it can be pretty simple. Even though I have installed lots of Dzus fasteners in race cars, the prospect of figuring out how to retrofit them to most bikes strikes me as more trouble than it is worth. It does not really take much time to back out two screws in order to remove the side panel. However, If I should ever come across a spring washer that will thread snugly onto those screws, I will probably use them on the back of the panel to retain the screws in their holes so they don't get lost in the grass.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "skypilot110" wrote: > > Has anybody tried to sort out a quick release for the side panels or seat? Seems to me it would be convienient to have them be released more quickly. Maybe even without tools. > > Looks like the seat could easily be converted to quick release pins like the push button t-pins used on military aircraft. Not sure how to do the side panels though >

[SM]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud" wrote:

> > My solution is to skip the seat retainer bolts.

Me too. A Kawasaki tail bag holds the rear of the seat down and it is damn near impossible to accidentally lose the seat. Even when you crash, I hear.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > Some folks just don't put the bolts in the seat mounts. Then the seat is > a lift off set up. Works fine until you trailer the bike and the seat > flies away. That's what you get for putting your KLR on a trailer, I reckon. I'm sure the trailer queen crowd probably have a big cushy seat with wings anyway. Fly away, pretty seat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 Thanks CA Stu

[mark ward]

Dzus: I noticed a few differant styles. Basicly what I was calling T pin (peg) these Dzus have a slot on the pin while the old style (still out there??) had/has a smaller pin going threw the end to catch on the other side. Spring loaded And Turn 1/4 turn to grab. Kneedraggers.com shows them for just this (OUR) purpose, body panels etc.

--- On Fri, 12/2/11, Jud wrote: From: Jud Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Speaking of removing the seat and side panels To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 2, 2011, 5:46 PM My solution is to skip the seat retainer bolts. My seat is a dish Corbin, and the tabs don't line up that well with the screw holes anyway. The seat fits in there pretty tightly, and has never yet become dislodged in a tip. I suppose it could do so. With a seat that comes off in seconds, quick removal of the side panels becomes a question that does not need to be asked. If you want to keep asking anyway, then the best answer is probably Dzus fasteners, common on aircraft, race cars and some dirt bikes. These use a slotted stud that locks with a quarter turn onto a piece of spring wire. It may take some time to figure out exactly how you will install them in some locations, while in others it can be pretty simple. Even though I have installed lots of Dzus fasteners in race cars, the prospect of figuring out how to retrofit them to most bikes strikes me as more trouble than it is worth. It does not really take much time to back out two screws in order to remove the side panel. However, If I should ever come across a spring washer that will thread snugly onto those screws, I will probably use them on the back of the panel to retain the screws in their holes so they don't get lost in the grass. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "skypilot110" wrote: > > Has anybody tried to sort out a quick release for the side panels or seat? Seems to me it would be convienient to have them be released more quickly. Maybe even without tools. > > Looks like the seat could easily be converted to quick release pins like the push button t-pins used on military aircraft. Not sure how to do the side panels though > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Don Smith]

I see that my solution is mentioned, simply drill access holes in the panels. Quite inconspicuous. Don [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[James W. Flower]

Leaving the left sidecover off exposes the air intake snorkel, which points straight up so rain can fall straight into it. But I like the cut of your jib too. -JWF

[Eddie]

For $98.12 a piece, those better be made of gold. eddie

> [Original Message] > From: RobertWichert > To: Tim Pruitt > Cc: Eric J Foster ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com

DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>

> Date: 12/4/2011 11:33:26 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Ball lock fasteners (was "Speaking of

removingthe seat and side pan

> > I used these on a nuclear power plant job. > > http://www.mcmaster.com/#cadinlnord/92385a290/=f7uanw > > And on my boat. > > > : )