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[Robert Kochen]

Gentlemen, I own a 2008 "oil burner" apparently and am looking for general info on the 685 modification. Is there a good source for this info? The little I've read so far seems to indcate this is a positive upgrade and generally fixes the oil issue. RJ Kochen 08 Kawasaki KLR650 * 99 BMW R1100rt IBA * BMWMOA * KCBMWMC * KC HOAME Club * AMA * RomeoRiders

[sh8knj8kster]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Kochen" wrote:

> > Gentlemen, I own a 2008 "oil burner" apparently and am looking for general info on the 685 modification. Is there a good source for this info? The little I've read so far seems to indcate this is a positive upgrade and generally fixes the oil issue. > > RJ Kochen > 08 Kawasaki KLR650 * 99 BMW R1100rt > IBA * BMWMOA * KCBMWMC * KC HOAME Club * AMA * RomeoRiders >

~~~~I beleive I read and viewed pictures of that upgrade over on the KLR World forums. Just google if you're not familiar with that KLR 650 internet resource. You will have to register to view or post anything. The owner (Hondo) does that to keep spammers out. BTW, that forum hosts an incredible amount of KLR maint and how to pictorials. Go on over there and take a look around One other matter...after you finish the install and you are ready to do the break in. follow the mototuneman's break in procedure to the letter. Best engine break procedure available IMNSHO I used this procedure to break in my 08' KLR 650 back in late 07' and never had oil burning issues. Google mototuneman Jake Reddick Fla. I may not agree with what you say... but if you say it with fewer words I'll try harder... http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/26137108@N04

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

Not necessarily. A friend put the 685 on his and it still burns oil. Seems like he said a quart every 1000 miles.  He is fixing to pull it apart again. He is very experienced rebuilding engines so I don't think his work is the problem. Seems like he said this is at running it at 85 mph for long distances. Criswell

On Nov 21, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Robert Kochen wrote:   Gentlemen, I own a 2008 "oil burner" apparently and am looking for general info on the 685 modification. Is there a good source for this info? The little I've read so far seems to indcate this is a positive upgrade and generally fixes the oil issue. RJ Kochen 08 Kawasaki KLR650 * 99 BMW R1100rt IBA * BMWMOA * KCBMWMC * KC HOAME Club * AMA * RomeoRiders

[Bob K]

I don't think the KLR was ever designed to run at 85 mph for long distances........   JM2C   Bob 09     CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com To: bobkochen@... From: roncriswell@... Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 07:04:02 -0600 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] 685 kit   Not necessarily. A friend put the 685 on his and it still burns oil. Seems like he said a quart every 1000 miles.  He is fixing to pull it apart again. He is very experienced rebuilding engines so I don't think his work is the problem. Seems like he said this is at running it at 85 mph for long distances. Criswell

On Nov 21, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Robert Kochen wrote: [quote]  

Gentlemen, I own a 2008 "oil burner" apparently and am looking for general info on the 685 modification. Is there a good source for this info? The little I've read so far seems to indcate this is a positive upgrade and generally fixes the oil issue. RJ Kochen 08 Kawasaki KLR650 * 99 BMW R1100rt IBA * BMWMOA * KCBMWMC * KC HOAME Club * AMA * RomeoRiders

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[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

I run mine at 5200-5300 rpm all the time and for hours on end on the hwy with no noticeable oil use between changes. Mine did start smoking at 23,000 miles and a friend did a top end job. No smoke or oil use (noticeable) since. I am at 53,000 now. Criswell Criswell

On Nov 22, 2010, at 7:27 AM, Bob K wrote:   I don't think the KLR was ever designed to run at 85 mph for long distances........   JM2C   Bob 09     CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com To: bobkochen@... From: roncriswell@... Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 07:04:02 -0600 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] 685 kit   Not necessarily. A friend put the 685 on his and it still burns oil. Seems like he said a quart every 1000 miles.  He is fixing to pull it apart again. He is very experienced rebuilding engines so I don't think his work is the problem. Seems like he said this is at running it at 85 mph for long distances. Criswell On Nov 21, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Robert Kochen wrote: [quote]   Gentlemen, I own a 2008 "oil burner" apparently and am looking for general info on the 685 modification. Is there a good source for this info? The little I've read so far seems to indcate this is a positive upgrade and generally fixes the oil issue. RJ Kochen 08 Kawasaki KLR650 * 99 BMW R1100rt IBA * BMWMOA * KCBMWMC * KC HOAME Club * AMA * RomeoRiders

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[Jeff Saline]

On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 00:21:12 -0000 "Robert Kochen" writes:

> Gentlemen, I own a 2008 "oil burner" apparently and am looking for > general info on the 685 modification. Is there a good source for > this info? The little I've read so far seems to indcate this is a > positive upgrade and generally fixes the oil issue. > > RJ Kochen

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[Jeffrey]

With the 16T front sprocket, you can run your KLR at 85 mph all day without any problems except traffic, cops, obstacles. I don't understand why anyone would buy an early 08 unless it already had the oil problem fixed. I have seen so many low mile pre-08s CHEAP ON craigslist and on Ebay if you are predisposed to more dirt than street. If you are more street, 09s and 10s are the way to go. A GOOD RUNNING FACTORY ENGINE IS BETTER/EASIER THAN INSTALLING THE 685 KIT. GOOD USED ENGINES ESP. PRE-08 ARE WIDELY AVAILABLE TOO FOR ABOUT THE SAME PRICE AND FAR LESS HASSLE. Remember, there is a winter discount on used KLRs and parts now. Jeffrey #3 I don't think the KLR was ever designed to run at 85 mph for long distances........ JM2C Bob 09

[RJ Kochen]

Message Not that hard to understand. I wasn't aware of the issue. When I bought the bike it looked like a good value. I've only put 3000 miles on the bike since buying it, now 7000 miles and don't see this as more than an annoyance. The bike has been a blast and I'll continue to enjoy it.   RJ Kochen 08 Kawasaki KLR650   *   99 BMW R1100rt IBA   *   BMWMOA   *   KCBMWMC  *  KC HOAME Club   *   AMA   *   RomeoRiders

-----Original Message----- [b]From:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Jeffrey [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, November 22, 2010 11:57 AM [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] RE: [DSN_KLR650] 685 kit I don't understand why anyone would buy an early 08 unless it already had the oil problem fixed. I have seen so many low mile pre-08s CHEAP ON craigslist and on Ebay if you are predisposed to more dirt than street. If you are more street, 09s and 10s are the way to go. Bob 09  

[RJ Kochen]

> Robert, > > I'll suggest the 685 does generally stop oil use issues. I > think the exceptions are just that, exceptions. And I would > question the machining and or assembly in every one of the > two or three exceptions I've heard about. > > My KLR685 doesn't use oil. I did my own cylinder boring and > had a very good friend with thousands of cylinder honings > under his belt do my final sizing for piston to cylinder fit. > We followed the directions from Schnitz. > > I think you could find more info at www.klr650.net and use > the search function near the top to search for 685. Any info > you see about the 685 from wymanwinn can be held as gospel. > He's maybe done the most 685 kits of anyone in the world. I > thinks he's down to doing one in less than 3 hours now. > > The big difference I can tell on my KLR when changing from > the 650 to 685 is it went from lawnmower smooth to sewing > machine smooth. It was that noticeable to me. There is a > bit more power but not enough to shout about in my opinion. > > As a side note... If I was installing a 685 kit I would add a > ThermoBob at the same time. You can find more about the > ThermoBob at www.klr650.net too. Use the search function. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT >

Jeff, Great info! Thanks to you and several others who have offered suggestions and opinions. RJ Kochen 08 Kawasaki KLR650 * 99 BMW R1100rt IBA * BMWMOA * KCBMWMC * KC HOAME Club * AMA * RomeoRiders

[RobertWichert]

Where would you get a factory engine? Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ========================================================

On 11/22/2010 9:56 AM, Jeffrey wrote:   With the 16T front sprocket, you can run your KLR at 85 mph all day without any problems except traffic, cops, obstacles. I don't understand why anyone would buy an early 08 unless it already had the oil problem fixed. I have seen so many low mile pre-08s CHEAP ON craigslist and on Ebay if you are predisposed to more dirt than street. If you are more street, 09s and 10s are the way to go. A GOOD RUNNING FACTORY ENGINE IS BETTER/EASIER THAN INSTALLING THE 685 KIT. GOOD USED ENGINES ESP. PRE-08 ARE WIDELY AVAILABLE TOO FOR ABOUT THE SAME PRICE AND FAR LESS HASSLE. Remember, there is a winter discount on used KLRs and parts now. Jeffrey #3 I don't think the KLR was ever designed to run at 85 mph for long distances........ JM2C Bob 09