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rsanders30117
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electrical problem

Post by rsanders30117 » Thu May 06, 2004 7:29 am

KLR650 are known to have wet weather electrical problems. Mine would cut out in the rain & let me tell you, being stranded on the side of the road, in the rain is not my idea of a good time. Besides "teeing" the carburetor vent. I have disconnected every stinking electrical connection I could find & greased them with dielectric grease. Each time I remove my fuel tank, I spray another layer of automotive wiring sealant on the wiring harness. Also be sure to check the weep hole from the spark plug well & clean it periodically with compressed & a stiff wire. Seal the spark plug boot with dielectric grease. Knock on wood, since doing the above, mine hasn't completely died in the rain but each time I ride in the wet, its definitely in the back of my mind. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Jean-Francois Lecours wrote:
> Hi! > > Here's the picture: > > Bike is new to me. Bought a month ago I've put 1000Km on it since.
At
> the beginnig of the week I notice that the headlight dim as the
flasher
> is on. The dim (about 30%) occures when the flasher lights on.
Tonight
> on my way to work (I work shifts) the problem previously mentioned
is
> still there and the following is happening as well: > > -the flasher flashes at an inconsistant rate > -the headlight now dims even when flasher not operating > > The starter cranks fine and the bike runs fine too. And ho yhea,
it's
> been raining a lot lately (like tonight). > > Anything I can do doctor? > > Tanks for your help > > JFLecours > Ottawa, Canada > > __________________________________________________________ > L che-vitrine ou l che- cran ? > magasinage.yahoo.ca

Lujo Bauer
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electrical problem

Post by Lujo Bauer » Thu May 06, 2004 8:21 am

> KLR650 are known to have wet weather electrical problems. Mine would > cut out in the rain & let me tell you, being stranded on the side of > the road, in the rain is not my idea of a good time.
I disagree that KLRs are known to have wet-weather problems. Other than performing the T mod, which helps some people and others (like me) haven't bothered to do, it's rare to hear of people having problems with rain. Certainly anything electrical is not going to *love* the rain, but bikes don't get much more rainproof than KLRs. -Lujo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Doug Pippin
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electrical problem

Post by Doug Pippin » Thu May 06, 2004 8:44 am

Jean-Francois Check all the wire connectors under the seat. I had an electrical problem and the problem was a loose connection with those old fashioned connectors. They looked OK but when I pulled each one apart I found one had a loose connection. I have on my to do list to replace those connectors with a nice positive connector block. good luck Doug in NC ---------- At 12:10 AM 5/6/04, you wrote:
> Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 00:09:03 -0400 (EDT) > From: Jean-Francois Lecours >Subject: Electrical problem > >Hi! > >Here's the picture: >Bike is new to me. Bought a month ago I've put 1000Km on it since. At the >beginnig of the week I notice that the headlight dim as the flasher is on. >The dim (about 30%) occures when the flasher lights on. Tonight on my way >to work (I work shifts) the problem previously mentioned is still there >and the following is happening as well: >-the flasher flashes at an inconsistant rate >-the headlight now dims even when flasher not operating >The starter cranks fine and the bike runs fine too. And ho yhea, it's been >raining a lot lately (like tonight). >Anything I can do doctor? >Tanks for your help > >JFLecours >Ottawa, Canada
---------- Doug Pippin 828-684-8488 dpippin5@... ---------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Tengai Mark Van Horn
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electrical problem

Post by Tengai Mark Van Horn » Thu May 06, 2004 8:59 am

At 9:20 AM -0400 5/6/04, Lujo Bauer wrote:
>> KLR650 are known to have wet weather electrical problems. Mine would >> cut out in the rain & let me tell you, being stranded on the side of >> the road, in the rain is not my idea of a good time. > >I disagree that KLRs are known to have wet-weather problems. Other than >performing the T mod, which helps some people and others (like me) >haven't bothered to do, it's rare to hear of people having problems with >rain. Certainly anything electrical is not going to *love* the rain, >but bikes don't get much more rainproof than KLRs.
I'm with Lujo. My '88 abuse victim receives regular deep submergence with no problems. Carb icing is my problem in the rain when temps are below 36F. Mark http://www.reelrider.com

Zachariah Mully
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electrical problem

Post by Zachariah Mully » Thu May 06, 2004 9:05 am

On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 09:56, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote:
> I'm with Lujo. My '88 abuse victim receives regular deep submergence > with no problems. > Carb icing is my problem in the rain when temps are below 36F. > > Mark
I've never done the T-mod and I managed to ride back Sunday night stuck in that damn storm the whole way without a single stumble or hesitation. I hate getting stuck behind tractor trailers, at one point all I could see was his box lights and that's it, no road, no lane markers, no nothing. Speaking of abuse victims did Tumu make it home on his QuikSteel special? Z DC A5X A12X

Tengai Mark Van Horn
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electrical problem

Post by Tengai Mark Van Horn » Thu May 06, 2004 10:07 am

At 10:04 AM -0400 5/6/04, Zachariah Mully wrote:
>Speaking of abuse victims did Tumu make it home on his QuikSteel >special?
I hadn't heard anything, which I figured was good news. I just got off the phone with him to double-check and he said, "Yup, no problem; it's still holding together, but I don't think it will see any woods riding for awhile." Mark http://www.reelrider.com

rsanders30117
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electrical problem

Post by rsanders30117 » Thu May 06, 2004 10:45 am

It amazing that you disagree. Here's a current posting for a wet weather KLR650 problem, I've problems myself with a KLR650 that I bought new, thus I know nothing has been tampered with & I received advice from others who have had similar problems. Your disagreement is illogical. Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean it can't exist.
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Lujo Bauer wrote: > > KLR650 are known to have wet weather electrical problems. Mine would > > cut out in the rain & let me tell you, being stranded on the side of > > the road, in the rain is not my idea of a good time. > > I disagree that KLRs are known to have wet-weather problems. Other than > performing the T mod, which helps some people and others (like me) > haven't bothered to do, it's rare to hear of people having problems with > rain. Certainly anything electrical is not going to *love* the rain, > but bikes don't get much more rainproof than KLRs. > > -Lujo > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Lujo Bauer
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Post by Lujo Bauer » Thu May 06, 2004 11:18 am

I think it's the other way around. Just because you have a problem (and I don't doubt that you do, and I hope you get it fixed soon) doesn't mean that KLRs in general are particularly suceptible to it. In fact, anecdotal evidence, just recently confirmed by several posts, suggests that KLRs are dependable even when it's so wet that half the bike is underwater. KLR dealers, on the other hand, are known to do a poor job assembling the bike. Perhaps your bike would benefit if you went over the electical connections and made sure they were appropriately greased (with electrical grease) and tightened. -Lujo rsanders30117 wrote:
> It amazing that you disagree. Here's a current posting for a wet > weather KLR650 problem, I've problems myself with a KLR650 that I > bought new, thus I know nothing has been tampered with & I received > advice from others who have had similar problems. Your disagreement > is illogical. Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean it > can't exist. > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Lujo Bauer wrote: > >>>KLR650 are known to have wet weather electrical problems. Mine > > would > >>>cut out in the rain & let me tell you, being stranded on the side > > of > >>>the road, in the rain is not my idea of a good time. >> >>I disagree that KLRs are known to have wet-weather problems. Other > > than > >>performing the T mod, which helps some people and others (like me) >>haven't bothered to do, it's rare to hear of people having problems > > with > >>rain. Certainly anything electrical is not going to *love* the > > rain, > >>but bikes don't get much more rainproof than KLRs. >> >>-Lujo
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Devon
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electrical problem

Post by Devon » Thu May 06, 2004 11:22 am

rsand_@... wrote:
>It amazing that you disagree. Here's a current posting for a wet >weather KLR650 problem, I've problems myself with a KLR650 that I >bought new, thus I know nothing has been tampered with & I received >advice from others who have had similar problems. Your disagreement >is illogical. Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean it >can't exist. >
It's not amazing. I've crossed creeks and puddles that reached the bottom of the tank, and I've ridden for hours in rain so heavy you couldn't see 100 yards. If someone's bike is cutting out in the rain, it doesn't mean that all KLRs have a problem with water. It means there's something amiss with that bike, that needs to be sorted out. Things that the KHI factory (and most other bike manufacturers as well) don't do: 1- Grease all the electrical connectors (or at least all ignition-related ones) with dielectric tune-up grease ("points grease") and reconnecting them. 2- Filling the inside of the spark plug boot with dielectric grease. 3- Putting a t-fitting in the carb bowl vent, and running a second line to a high point. Don't be pissed off about stuff that takes $1.00 in parts and an afternoon to sort out. It's a cheap bike, and guess what- the expensive ones have plenty of the same sort of problems as well. Most of that's in the FAQ anyway. Devon

tim dermody
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electrical problem

Post by tim dermody » Thu May 06, 2004 9:30 pm

Got an A18 wqith 2400+ and have had no electrical problems I can positively attribute to wet weather riding. Granted, I've probably not shaken loose the shoddy factory installed and tightened connectors yet. But, I've riden hours in wet fog, drizzel and light rain, and have been caught in torential downpours with no ignition or electrical cut-outs. I've even dropped the bike on it's side for about 10 seconds during a failed river crossing (14 inch deep). Never missed a beat there either. I'm sure my day will come though. It's just a matter of time, distance, speed and water. It's our curse for riding bikes in the wet and wild I think. However, all posts connected to correcting or preventing electrical or ignition cut-out that I've seen are technically sound and wouldn't hurt a thing if performed correctly and often. Tim --- Lujo Bauer wrote:
> > KLR650 are known to have wet weather electrical > problems. Mine would > > cut out in the rain & let me tell you, being > stranded on the side of > > the road, in the rain is not my idea of a good > time. > > I disagree that KLRs are known to have wet-weather > problems. Other than > performing the T mod, which helps some people and > others (like me) > haven't bothered to do, it's rare to hear of people > having problems with > rain. Certainly anything electrical is not going to > *love* the rain, > but bikes don't get much more rainproof than KLRs. > > -Lujo > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >
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