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[Luc Legrain]

All the " WiseAsses " I know, have the Bob installed AND since this is America where good and great ideas and products are rewarded, they bought it directly from Bill Watson,the man came up with it he is entitled to reap the rewards of his idea ,meaning fork out $115.00 ,you'll be glad you did. Now, as far as installing it on over 40k bikes that would be up to Bill to give you some technical info. Luc Who still has a few Granny undies left for sale,sorry the clean ones are already sold.....

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Richard A. Butler wrote: From: Richard A. Butler Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 8:25 PM --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "Dooden" wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >OOPs, I realized the link re thermobob did not lead where I thought it would. Ill try again. http://members. cox.net/watt- man/TB%20Testing 1.htm I hope this works better, Richard Butler >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> > Is it like a Thingamagig ? > > Whoa... sorry another wiseass in the mix... > > Dooden > A15 Green Ape > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Rick McCauley wrote: > > > > I thought Seth had a pretty standard request. Nothing wrong with > trying to save a couple bucks in these tough times. All he got was > wise crack answers. > > > > And with all the KLR's out there with 50,000+ miles on them, who > decided that the Thermo - Bob is a MUST DO MOD? > > > > I have also been interested in the Thermo-Bob but before I lay down > $100+ I would like to learn more about it too. So if anyone can offer > intelligent info , I would like to hear it. > > > > Rick > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Luc Legrain wrote: > > > > From: Luc Legrain > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "navyboy652002" > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WTF Dude ?? $115.00 including shipping AND your questions answered > in a jiffy if you buy the Bob from the man that spent time and sweat > designing the thing!! that's CHEAP in my book for something your bike > NEEDS ( A MUST DO MOD ..) .If you want cheap I've got a couple of old > clean undies that my ex girl friend's grand -ma use to wear on > Sunday's Service, she was French and a Wh.. ............ ....... > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, navyboy652002 wrote: > > > > From: navyboy652002 > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:36 PM > > > > Hey all I am interested in getting a Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR650. I > > found where you can order them online, but I thought I would check to > > see if I could save some money and maybe help someone out who bought > > one but never installed it and needs to sell it??? So if you or you > > know of someone looking to sell please drop me a email @ > > seth@ Price, pics, shipping to 95327. > > Thanks, Seth > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Ron Magen]

I don't consider myself a 'wiseass', although my wife will disagree . . . it's just the 'Engineering Personality' - plus a dash of 'CHEAP SOB'. I very much understand the need for a rapid warm-up in the Northern Tier states. I live in Southeastern PA and fortunately don't experience that deep, or long, a 'cold soak'. The mention of '. . . over 40K bikes ' caught my attention. From a purely engineering standpoint, any mechanism that has a 'steady state' of operation is going to work more efficiently, and have less wear, then one that continuously 'cycles'. This was my concern, plus the thermal shock to the small mass {relatively speaking !!} of the cylinder. Plus my main consideration is for cooling during the 'warmer months'. I've known about the 'Thermo-Bob' mechanism {I think it was the 'MarkNet' site that had an extensive review and 'photo essay' on installation} - but the site noted here was GREAT !! Happily, my bike is just at the beginning of it's life . . it is an IMMACULATE 2003 - 'showroom condition' with a LOT of PRACTICAL extras already installed {'doohicky', off-road exhaust, Stainless brake line, - all the 'usual suspects'}, with less then 5K on it - at an absolute STEAL of a price. I haven't ridden for about 30 years, but I couldn't pass this up !! I got it in December, so all I could really do was add some fuel stabilizer to the gas and run the carb dry, and remove the battery {sealed AGM !!} for indoor storage. I'm scheduled for the 'Safety Class' in April. Hopefully it will be warm enough before that to do all the Preventative Maintenance . . . Change ALL the fluids, add a magnetic drain plug, metal oil cap{?}, check, tighten, & adjust EVERYTHING, . . .and install a 'Thermo-Bob' !! Being a 'Cheap SOB' means I want this machine to last FOREVER !! Regards & Thanks, Ron Magen Backyard Boatshop - - - - - - I didnt really realize how benificial it was untill I installed it. Ive had it for over 10K now W/O problems. Richard Butler ________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: "Luc Legrain" zrislois2klr@... zrislois2klr All the " WiseAsses " I know, have the Bob installed AND since this is America where good and great ideas and products are rewarded, they bought it directly from Bill Watson,the man came up with it he is entitled to reap the rewards of his idea ,meaning fork out $115.00 ,you'll be glad you did. Now, as far as installing it on over 40k bikes that would be up to Bill to give you some technical info.

[Ross Lindberg]

Actually the Thermo-Bob should increase engine life by reducing cylinder bore taper which is caused mainly by temperature fluctuations. Also thermodynamic efficiency should improve resulting in a slight improvement in fuel mileage. The book "Power Secrets" by Smokey Yunic covers a lot on this subject. Ross Lindberg Fertile, MN

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Ron Magen" wrote: > > I don't consider myself a 'wiseass', although my wife will disagree . . . > it's just the 'Engineering Personality' - plus a dash of 'CHEAP SOB'. > > I very much understand the need for a rapid warm-up in the Northern Tier > states. I live in Southeastern PA and fortunately don't experience that > deep, or long, a 'cold soak'. The mention of '. . . over 40K bikes ' caught > my attention. > > From a purely engineering standpoint, any mechanism that has a 'steady > state' of operation is going to work more efficiently, and have less wear, > then one that continuously 'cycles'. This was my concern, plus the thermal > shock to the small mass {relatively speaking !!} of the cylinder. Plus my > main consideration is for cooling during the 'warmer months'. > > I've known about the 'Thermo-Bob' mechanism {I think it was the 'MarkNet' > site that had an extensive review and 'photo essay' on installation} - but > the site noted here was GREAT !! > > Happily, my bike is just at the beginning of it's life . . it is an > IMMACULATE 2003 - 'showroom condition' with a LOT of PRACTICAL extras > already installed {'doohicky', off-road exhaust, Stainless brake line, - all > the 'usual suspects'}, with less then 5K on it - at an absolute STEAL of a > price. I haven't ridden for about 30 years, but I couldn't pass this up !! I > got it in December, so all I could really do was add some fuel stabilizer to > the gas and run the carb dry, and remove the battery {sealed AGM !!} for > indoor storage. > > I'm scheduled for the 'Safety Class' in April. Hopefully it will be warm > enough before that to do all the Preventative Maintenance . . . Change ALL > the fluids, add a magnetic drain plug, metal oil cap{?}, check, tighten, & > adjust EVERYTHING, . . .and install a 'Thermo-Bob' !! > > Being a 'Cheap SOB' means I want this machine to last FOREVER !! > > Regards & Thanks, > Ron Magen > Backyard Boatshop > - - - - - - > > I didnt really realize how benificial it was untill I installed it. > Ive had it for over 10K now W/O problems. > Richard Butler > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > > Posted by: "Luc Legrain" zrislois2klr@... zrislois2klr > > All the " WiseAsses " I know, have the Bob installed AND since this is > America where good and great ideas and products are rewarded, they bought it > directly from Bill Watson,the man came up with it he is entitled to reap the > rewards of his idea ,meaning fork out $115.00 ,you'll be glad you did. > Now, as far as installing it on over 40k bikes that would be up to Bill to > give you some technical info. >

[Doug Herr]

On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 02:47 -0800, Luc Legrain wrote:

> All the " WiseAsses " I know, have the Bob installed AND since this is America where good and great ideas and products are rewarded, they bought it directly from Bill Watson,the man came up with it he is entitled to reap the rewards of his idea ,meaning fork out $115.00 ,you'll be glad you did. > Now, as far as installing it on over 40k bikes that would be up to Bill to give you some technical info.

Sorry for adding to an over done thread, but I can't let this one go. There is *nothing* wrong with somebody buying a Thermo-Bob, not installing it and then selling it. Nothing wrong for the buyer or seller in this situation. I did check Bobs site, and he is not limiting the sold device for use only by the original purchaser. We are not talking about a knockoff here. He asked if somebody purchased something that they then did not use. I don't think Bob wants people to buy this thing and just leave it in the box, he wants them to live a proper life on a KLR. -- Doug Herr doug@... A16 in Oakland, California

[Rick McCauley]

Well if it's the best you can do, at least you tried. Rick

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Dooden wrote: From: Dooden Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 7:19 PM Is it like a Thingamagig ? Whoa... sorry another wiseass in the mix... Dooden A15 Green Ape --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Rick McCauley wrote: > > I thought Seth had a pretty standard request. Nothing wrong with trying to save a couple bucks in these tough times. All he got was wise crack answers. > > And with all the KLR's out there with 50,000+ miles on them, who decided that the Thermo - Bob is a MUST DO MOD? > > I have also been interested in the Thermo-Bob but before I lay down $100+ I would like to learn more about it too. So if anyone can offer intelligent info , I would like to hear it. > > Rick > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Luc Legrain wrote: > > From: Luc Legrain > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "navyboy652002" > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > WTF Dude ?? $115.00 including shipping AND your questions answered in a jiffy if you buy the Bob from the man that spent time and sweat designing the thing!! that's CHEAP in my book for something your bike NEEDS ( A MUST DO MOD ..) .If you want cheap I've got a couple of old clean undies that my ex girl friend's grand -ma use to wear on Sunday's Service, she was French and a Wh.. ............ ....... > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, navyboy652002 wrote: > > From: navyboy652002 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:36 PM > > Hey all I am interested in getting a Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR650. I > found where you can order them online, but I thought I would check to > see if I could save some money and maybe help someone out who bought > one but never installed it and needs to sell it??? So if you or you > know of someone looking to sell please drop me a email @ > seth@... Price, pics, shipping to 95327. > Thanks, Seth > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Rick McCauley]

Big deal. Just because they spent the money, doesn't mean the bike is going to last longer. Rick

--- On Sat, 2/28/09, Luc Legrain wrote: From: Luc Legrain Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Richard A. Butler" Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 4:47 AM All the " WiseAsses " I know, have the Bob installed AND since this is America where good and great ideas and products are rewarded, they bought it directly from Bill Watson,the man came up with it he is entitled to reap the rewards of his idea ,meaning fork out $115.00 ,you'll be glad you did. Now, as far as installing it on over 40k bikes that would be up to Bill to give you some technical info. Luc Who still has a few Granny undies left for sale,sorry the clean ones are already sold..... --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Richard A. Butler wrote: From: Richard A. Butler Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 8:25 PM --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "Dooden" wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >OOPs, I realized the link re thermobob did not lead where I thought it would. Ill try again. http://members. cox.net/watt- man/TB%20Testing 1.htm I hope this works better, Richard Butler >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> > Is it like a Thingamagig ? > > Whoa... sorry another wiseass in the mix... > > Dooden > A15 Green Ape > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Rick McCauley wrote: > > > > I thought Seth had a pretty standard request. Nothing wrong with > trying to save a couple bucks in these tough times. All he got was > wise crack answers. > > > > And with all the KLR's out there with 50,000+ miles on them, who > decided that the Thermo - Bob is a MUST DO MOD? > > > > I have also been interested in the Thermo-Bob but before I lay down > $100+ I would like to learn more about it too. So if anyone can offer > intelligent info , I would like to hear it. > > > > Rick > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Luc Legrain wrote: > > > > From: Luc Legrain > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "navyboy652002" > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WTF Dude ?? $115.00 including shipping AND your questions answered > in a jiffy if you buy the Bob from the man that spent time and sweat > designing the thing!! that's CHEAP in my book for something your bike > NEEDS ( A MUST DO MOD ..) .If you want cheap I've got a couple of old > clean undies that my ex girl friend's grand -ma use to wear on > Sunday's Service, she was French and a Wh.. ............ ....... > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, navyboy652002 wrote: > > > > From: navyboy652002 > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:36 PM > > > > Hey all I am interested in getting a Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR650. I > > found where you can order them online, but I thought I would check to > > see if I could save some money and maybe help someone out who bought > > one but never installed it and needs to sell it??? So if you or you > > know of someone looking to sell please drop me a email @ > > seth@ Price, pics, shipping to 95327. > > Thanks, Seth > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jim Douglas]

Rick McCauley wrote:

> > Big deal. Just because they spent the money, doesn't mean the bike is > going to last longer. > > Rick > > --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Luc Legrain > wrote: > > From: Luc Legrain > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com , > "Richard A. Butler" > > Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 4:47 AM > > All the " WiseAsses " I know, have the Bob installed AND since this is > America where good and great ideas and products are rewarded, they > bought it directly from Bill Watson,the man came up with it he is > entitled to reap the rewards of his idea ,meaning fork out $115.00 > ,you'll be glad you did. > Now, as far as installing it on over 40k bikes that would be up to > Bill to give you some technical info. > > Luc > Who still has a few Granny undies left for sale,sorry the clean ones > are already sold..... > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Richard A. Butler wrote: > > From: Richard A. Butler > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 8:25 PM > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "Dooden" wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >OOPs, I realized the link re thermobob did not lead where I thought > it would. Ill try again. > > http://members. cox.net/watt- man/TB%20Testing 1.htm > > I hope this works better, > Richard Butler > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > > > Is it like a Thingamagig ? > > > > Whoa... sorry another wiseass in the mix... > > > > Dooden > > A15 Green Ape > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Rick McCauley wrote: > > > > > > I thought Seth had a pretty standard request. Nothing wrong with > > trying to save a couple bucks in these tough times. All he got was > > wise crack answers. > > > > > > And with all the KLR's out there with 50,000+ miles on them, who > > decided that the Thermo - Bob is a MUST DO MOD? > > > > > > I have also been interested in the Thermo-Bob but before I lay > down > > $100+ I would like to learn more about it too. So if anyone can > offer > > intelligent info , I would like to hear it. > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Luc Legrain wrote: > > > > > > From: Luc Legrain > > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "navyboy652002" > > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WTF Dude ?? $115.00 including shipping AND your questions > answered > > in a jiffy if you buy the Bob from the man that spent time and sweat > > designing the thing!! that's CHEAP in my book for something your > bike > > NEEDS ( A MUST DO MOD ..) .If you want cheap I've got a couple of > old > > clean undies that my ex girl friend's grand -ma use to wear on > > Sunday's Service, she was French and a Wh.. ............ ....... > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, navyboy652002 wrote: > > > > > > From: navyboy652002 > > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:36 PM > > > > > > Hey all I am interested in getting a Thermo-Bob for my 2000 > KLR650. I > > > found where you can order them online, but I thought I would > check to > > > see if I could save some money and maybe help someone out who > bought > > > one but never installed it and needs to sell it??? So if you or > you > > > know of someone looking to sell please drop me a email @ > > > seth@ Price, pics, shipping to 95327. > > > Thanks, Seth > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

What's interesting to me, and I am NOT a engine type guy, is that I always thought that heat had bad affects on things, in my industry electronics, we are always aware of heat as it tends to break down materials and thus their life is shortened due to high heat. I believe from what I read that low heat can cause engine issues of some type? I have read the overview of the product but it's not clear to me why you would want the engine to be at a constant (higher) temperature than what was originally designed by the mfg? Can anyone explain, in no engine expert terms why you would need this and how it would extend the life of some parts of the engine? Thanks!

[Greg May]

Hi Jim, I'm not really an engine guy either but industrial electronics in one of my fields so the way I would compare the ThermoBob, which I have installed to the electronics field would be as follows. A lot of the PLC's, drives etc I woke on are in very hot enviroments so cabinet cooling is a must, but if you try to over cool on hot humid days you wind up with condensation on the circuit boards, to me the equal of your KLR engine not getting up to temp on cold days, you get condensation in the oil which shows up at it's extreme as a milky froth. The ThermoBob allows your motor to quickly warm to operating temperature. The other benefit of the ThermoBob is that once your motor warms to operating temp it stays in my experience stable pretty much with in a needle's width on the temp gauge thus preventing thermal shock when the thermostat opens and floods the motor with greatly cooled anti-freeze on a cold day. Excessive heat and electronics definitely can be a bad mix but in my experience where stuff is expected to work in pretty extreme temperatures hot/cool cycles seems to be at least as bad as too much heat so you try to control the temperature at a good stable temperature. If you have a circuit board you suspect is having problems because of local overheating, a bad component, bad solder joint, etc you probably like me hit it with a shot of cold spray on the suspect components to see if the problem disappears. In some cases the heat has distorted parts enough that a good connection is no longer there but a shot of cold spray restores that connection long enough to guide you to the problem....have a great day....Greg

--- On Mon, 3/2/09, Jim Douglas wrote: From: Jim Douglas Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR To: Cc: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Received: Monday, March 2, 2009, 11:22 AM Rick McCauley wrote: > > Big deal. Just because they spent the money, doesn't mean the bike is > going to last longer. > > Rick > > --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Luc Legrain > wrote: > > From: Luc Legrain > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com , > "Richard A. Butler" > > Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 4:47 AM > > All the " WiseAsses " I know, have the Bob installed AND since this is > America where good and great ideas and products are rewarded, they > bought it directly from Bill Watson,the man came up with it he is > entitled to reap the rewards of his idea ,meaning fork out $115.00 > ,you'll be glad you did. > Now, as far as installing it on over 40k bikes that would be up to > Bill to give you some technical info. > > Luc > Who still has a few Granny undies left for sale,sorry the clean ones > are already sold..... > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Richard A. Butler wrote: > > From: Richard A. Butler > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 8:25 PM > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "Dooden" wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >OOPs, I realized the link re thermobob did not lead where I thought > it would. Ill try again. > > http://members. cox.net/watt- man/TB%20Testing 1.htm > > I hope this works better, > Richard Butler > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > > > Is it like a Thingamagig ? > > > > Whoa... sorry another wiseass in the mix... > > > > Dooden > > A15 Green Ape > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Rick McCauley wrote: > > > > > > I thought Seth had a pretty standard request. Nothing wrong with > > trying to save a couple bucks in these tough times. All he got was > > wise crack answers. > > > > > > And with all the KLR's out there with 50,000+ miles on them, who > > decided that the Thermo - Bob is a MUST DO MOD? > > > > > > I have also been interested in the Thermo-Bob but before I lay > down > > $100+ I would like to learn more about it too. So if anyone can > offer > > intelligent info , I would like to hear it. > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Luc Legrain wrote: > > > > > > From: Luc Legrain > > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "navyboy652002" > > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WTF Dude ?? $115.00 including shipping AND your questions > answered > > in a jiffy if you buy the Bob from the man that spent time and sweat > > designing the thing!! that's CHEAP in my book for something your > bike > > NEEDS ( A MUST DO MOD ..) .If you want cheap I've got a couple of > old > > clean undies that my ex girl friend's grand -ma use to wear on > > Sunday's Service, she was French and a Wh.. ............ ....... > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, navyboy652002 wrote: > > > > > > From: navyboy652002 > > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] WTB Thermo-Bob for my 2000 KLR > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:36 PM > > > > > > Hey all I am interested in getting a Thermo-Bob for my 2000 > KLR650. I > > > found where you can order them online, but I thought I would > check to > > > see if I could save some money and maybe help someone out who > bought > > > one but never installed it and needs to sell it??? So if you or > you > > > know of someone looking to sell please drop me a email @ > > > seth@ Price, pics, shipping to 95327. > > > Thanks, Seth > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > What's interesting to me, and I am NOT a engine type guy, is that I always thought that heat had bad affects on things, in my industry electronics, we are always aware of heat as it tends to break down materials and thus their life is shortened due to high heat. I believe from what I read that low heat can cause engine issues of some type? I have read the overview of the product but it's not clear to me why you would want the engine to be at a constant (higher) temperature than what was originally designed by the mfg? Can anyone explain, in no engine expert terms why you would need this and how it would extend the life of some parts of the engine? Thanks! __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 2:17 PM -0800 3/2/09, Greg May wrote:

>....the way I would compare the ThermoBob, which >I have installed to the electronics field would >be as follows. .... The ThermoBob allows your >motor to quickly warm to operating temperature. > The other benefit of the ThermoBob is that >once your motor warms to operating temp it stays >in my experience stable pretty much with in a >needle's width on the temp gauge thus preventing >thermal shock when the thermostat opens and >floods the motor with greatly cooled anti-freeze >on a cold day.

I'll compare it to the several millions of liquid-cooled auto and motorcycle engines that have no such device, but have all enjoyed great longevity in the modern era. I laugh at the rocket science that goes on in many areas concerning the KLR. The money is better used toward the suspension, luggage or a GPS rather than some superfluous device that *may* (no clinical studies done, mind you) extend the life of an already durable engine, IMO. BTW, if you're afraid of thermal shock, don't ever take it across a creek, or even through a mud puddle or thunderstorm. Mark

[Mike]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote:

> > At 2:17 PM -0800 3/2/09, Greg May wrote: > >....the way I would compare the ThermoBob, which > >I have installed to the electronics field would > >be as follows. .... The ThermoBob allows your > >motor to quickly warm to operating temperature. > > The other benefit of the ThermoBob is that > >once your motor warms to operating temp it stays > >in my experience stable pretty much with in a > >needle's width on the temp gauge thus preventing > >thermal shock when the thermostat opens and > >floods the motor with greatly cooled anti-freeze > >on a cold day. > > I'll compare it to the several millions of > liquid-cooled auto and motorcycle engines that > have no such device, but have all enjoyed great > longevity in the modern era. > I laugh at the rocket science that goes on in many areas concerning

the KLR.

> The money is better used toward the suspension, > luggage or a GPS rather than some superfluous > device that *may* (no clinical studies done, mind > you) extend the life of an already durable > engine, IMO. > > BTW, if you're afraid of thermal shock, don't > ever take it across a creek, or even through a > mud puddle or thunderstorm. > Mark >

I guess you haven't looked at an automotive engine for a looong time.... Nearly all of them have a radiator bypass, and have for many years. Some modern motorcycle engines do too. all the best, Mike