nklr pda/gps questions

[Stephen Grisanti]

Just trying to give back a little to the list group that has helped me, and there is something to the "brain trust" aspect of things. All of us working together can be smarter, less frustrated or more experienced than one of us working alone. Glad it worked. Reminds me of a testing scenario I once read about, a guy working with a points-and-condensor ignition problem. Finally reached the point where he was holding the points in his hand, could SEE that they were closed and yet they still tested open. He then pried the contacts apart and found a tiny piece of grit between them that was preventing actual contact. Testing, indeed. Stephen --- ltslpr wrote:

> "Not believing in coincidences " > > Today, experience has shown me that there is such a > word as > "coincidences" because, indeed, there can be > coincidences. > > First, thank you again, Greg, for your exhaustive > analysis of my > problem, you took a lot of your time to assist me. > > And, thank you, Stephen, for giving me the necessary > impetus to solve > my problem, by informing me that your fix, for a > problem different > from mine, cost you only $3. Because of your > response, I thought that > $3 was not much cost to make sure the turn signal > relay was not the > problem even though the relay tested OK per the > manual test. On the > way to the auto store it occurred to me (way > belatedly) that the > manual test wasn't really much of a test, after all; > since there was > no "positive" signal of operation, but rather only a > "negative" signal > (no resistance), the relay still could be the cause. > And so it was! > $3.24 and the bike is now put back together and > operating fine. > > The education here is don't simply do the manual > test and move on > > The secondary education is that we all need a little > help to get by. > > And, there is absolutely no reason that I can think > of that I did > something to damage the relay. > > Just a coincidence. > > Glenn > San Jose, CA > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

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[Greg May]

Hi Glenn.....glad you got it fixed....have a great day....Greg ltslpr wrote: "Not believing in coincidences " Today, experience has shown me that there is such a word as "coincidences" because, indeed, there can be coincidences. First, thank you again, Greg, for your exhaustive analysis of my problem, you took a lot of your time to assist me. And, thank you, Stephen, for giving me the necessary impetus to solve my problem, by informing me that your fix, for a problem different from mine, cost you only $3. Because of your response, I thought that $3 was not much cost to make sure the turn signal relay was not the problem even though the relay tested OK per the manual test. On the way to the auto store it occurred to me (way belatedly) that the manual test wasn't really much of a test, after all; since there was no "positive" signal of operation, but rather only a "negative" signal (no resistance), the relay still could be the cause. And so it was! $3.24 and the bike is now put back together and operating fine. The education here is don't simply do the manual test and move on The secondary education is that we all need a little help to get by. And, there is absolutely no reason that I can think of that I did something to damage the relay. Just a coincidence. Glenn San Jose, CA --------------------------------- Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[ltslpr]

Hi, me again for hopefully the last time. The automotive-type turnsignal unit I bought at Kragen Auto Parts lasted less than 50 miles before, presumably, shaking itself to death - this in spite of me tying it off to a rubber-mounted electrical connection box. Talked over my problem with a few of my old (as in age/experience) riding buddies, and we all came to the conclusion that automotive flasher units are not robust enough for a long life lived over a thumper motor. I know others have better results, but for me, disassembling the KLR to get at the flasher unit is such a PITA that I traded current cash for probable future time when I bought the OEM unit. Threw my $3 automotive flasher in the trash; bought a $33 (including shipping) OEM flasher unit from Ron Ayers, received it in the mail in about (10) days. 150 miles later, still working. Glenn San Jose, CA

[Stephen Grisanti]

My $3 unit was still working when I sold the bike, but who knows how long it lasted after that? Your experience has added to the group's cumulative wisdom. Thanks for the update. Stephen --- ltslpr wrote:

> Hi, me again for hopefully the last time. > > The automotive-type turnsignal unit I bought at > Kragen Auto Parts > lasted less than 50 miles before, presumably, > shaking itself to death > - this in spite of me tying it off to a > rubber-mounted electrical > connection box. > > Talked over my problem with a few of my old (as in > age/experience) > riding buddies, and we all came to the conclusion > that automotive > flasher units are not robust enough for a long life > lived over a > thumper motor. I know others have better results, > but for me, > disassembling the KLR to get at the flasher unit is > such a PITA that I > traded current cash for probable future time when I > bought the OEM unit. > > Threw my $3 automotive flasher in the trash; bought > a $33 (including > shipping) OEM flasher unit from Ron Ayers, received > it in the mail in > about (10) days. 150 miles later, still working. > > Glenn > San Jose, CA > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

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[GMac999]

Jeff, I guess I should read all the messages before I reply. I run Daemon Tools and run it from an image. GregM -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Saline Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:27 PM To: spike55_bmw@... Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR PDA/GPS questions On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:09:45 -0000 "Spike55" writes:

> There's only one thing that bugs me about Garmin is the Topo

software

> > package. Being a KLR rider I lean toward the Garmin's Topo package > > vs. their Metro software (I could care less about restraunts, bed & > > breakfasts, etc). What bugs me about the Topo is to download /

upload

> to my eTrx Legend (limited memory) you need to have the Topo > > CD in the computer drive for it to work (zoom in / out / scroll / > etc). With Metro, you can load it all into a directory on the > computer and then you can map-away - leave the CDs at home. It

would

> be a great for me if Topo loaded the same as Metro since my laptop > that doesn't have an internal DVD / CD drive and I don't want to

carry

> / damage the CD's while on a trip. > > I talked to Garmin about this and the rep said it was designed that > > way because computers don't have that much memory - BBBB SSSS! I'd > > have no other concern with Garmin if that Topo issue was addressed. > > Don R100, A6F

<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> Don, Below is a "secret" I got from someone in 2005. It might have even been from this list. I did what it suggests and TOPO works on my lap top without the CD. Might be worth a try. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT <><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> "Thank you for contacting Garmin Cartography. There's a "back door" way of installing it to your computer without having to use the CD's every time. Unfortunately, this is not included in the manual. Please feel free to pass this info. along to anyone you know who is encountering the same problem. What you need to do is put the CD into the drive. Empty/Copy the entire contents of your CD drive to somewhere on your hard drive. Then run the install...Straight from your hard-drive. This will allow you to run the program as normal... without... having to put the CD in every time. For those that already have it installed, they must fully uninstall the program and start these directions from scratch." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs