kl250 owners? (now gas question)

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Blake Sobiloff
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chain replacement

Post by Blake Sobiloff » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:48 am

On Jul 10, 2007, at 8:43 PM, hobbhavnklr650 wrote:
> 13,000 miles on my stock chain and it is getting noisy and hard to > keep > adjusted. Is the timing (mileage) right to expect it to need > replacement?
Hi Keith! For highway use that seems a bit early to me, but certainly not an indication of a big problem. It's awfully easy to over-tighten the chain, leading to an early demise, and IMHO most of the "chain lube" products out there do more harm than good on an o- ring chain (like what your bike has from the factory). (Not to re- open the chain lube debate...) Try running your next chain with the maximum slack (0.60" IIRC) next time.
> Any suggestions on a replacement chain. I am pretty much driving > highways, no trails, and occasional forest roads.
If you ride in wet conditions I'd recommend an "anodized" chain like the DID or RK gold. The sideplates won't rust up like the plain ones will. If not, any X-, W-, or Z-ring chain will do you just fine. They're all just slight improvements on the traditional o-ring chains. -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/> San Jose, CA (USA) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

hobbhavnklr650
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chain replacement

Post by hobbhavnklr650 » Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:34 pm

Decided to replace my chain and Fred got me one in short time. Never replaced one before and though it looks straigt forward, any thing I should know before launch. The chain uses a clip-on link, so will I need a press for the master link? Keith Idaho KLR

Jacobus De Bruyn
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chain replacement

Post by Jacobus De Bruyn » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:13 am

If thou knowest not how to replace a normal chain, not an endless stock one, then thou shouldest get very pronto the Clymer s KLR Manual. Or make friends with people who know. Just changed mine with two left hands, but a few years of practice. Jake. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php

Chris Norloff
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chain replacement

Post by Chris Norloff » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:12 am

I've put the clip-on link on many times with only pliers, but it's a little easier with a chain press. Be careful not to push out the pins though! Put the clip with the rounded end facing forward, relative to the direction the chain moves, to make it a little less likely to snag on something and come off. Secure the clip with safety wire, or even silicon sealant. Some folks peen the pins to secure the clip. Chris ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "hobbhavnklr650" Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 02:34:08 -0000
>Decided to replace my chain and Fred got me one in short time. Never >replaced one before and though it looks straigt forward, any thing I >should know before launch. The chain uses a clip-on link, so will I >need a press for the master link? > >Keith >Idaho KLR >

Michael Nelson

chain replacement

Post by Michael Nelson » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:53 am

If you don't have a chain press you can use ViseGrips and a nut with a hole it in large enough for the pins to pass through. Put the nut on the side plate you're pressing on, straddling the pin, and clamp the ViseGrips between the fixed end of the pin and the nut. Do one pin a little, then the other until the side plate is pressed on as far as you need. Press it on only far enough to get the clip on, and don't mash the O-rings too much. When I worked as a shop mechanic I used this method regularly even though we had a very expensive chain breaker with press. The VG & nut method just worked better and was more controllable. -- "It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it's the parts that I do understand." --Mark Twain San Francisco, CA

hobbhavnklr650
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chain replacement

Post by hobbhavnklr650 » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:15 pm

I looked but didn't see. Looked harder and now the book is open and the page is grease smudged. The stock chain is off and the new chain is long. Should I count links to size the chain or is there another method and will I need a chain break to remove the excess links. Thanks for your help. Keith --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jacobus De Bruyn wrote:
> > If thou knowest not how to replace a normal chain, not > an endless stock one, then thou shouldest get very > pronto the Clymer s KLR Manual. Or make friends with > people who know. Just changed mine with two left > hands, but a few years of practice. Jake. > > > >
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drewcasci22
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kl250 owners? (now gas question)

Post by drewcasci22 » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:15 pm

Thanks to those who replied. Good, detailed, info. Much appreciated. Andrew
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Kimosabe" wrote: > > What is your reason for using a higher octane than recommended? If > it has bad pinging or knocking, OK. If you think you're going to get > more power or a cleaner engine, guess again. > > My 2004 KLR250 manual recommends a minimum of reasearch no. 91 octane > for California and other models. I use regular, 87 octane and have > no problems. I have rejetted my carb and have "ventilated" the air > filter box. It runs great. I notice no significant clatter or > pinging even without a helmet to muffle the sounds and I didn't > notice any before I made the mods. > > Technically, you should use the octane the manufacturer recommends > and keep the engine properly tuned and maintained. I see many people > use the higher octanes when not recommended mainly to make themselves > feel better. The station owners and gas companies feel better, too - > more bucks for them. > > So, there's the technical answer and what I really do. Typical, huh? > > http://tinyurl.com/23gl6a > > http://tinyurl.com/yp7kfm > > Steve in Niceville > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "drewcasci22" > wrote: > > > > While in the subject of the 250 models, is it adviseable to run > > premium gas? > > > > My dad bought a 1999 KLR 250 about a month or so ago and the local > > shop he bought it from recommended he use premium. > > > > He mostly putts around town and the fire roads in Lake Tahoe CA. > not > > a really demanding rider, but has to keep up with the grandchildren > > at times. > > > > I pose the question to the group to see if regular or premium would > > make much of a difference. > > > > What are your thoughts? > > > > Andrew > > 1994 KLR 650 > > Penang, Malaysia > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Mike Frey wrote: > > > > > > TW, I assume that when you write "KL250", you are talking about > > > the Super Sherpa. I have IRC GP-1 tires on mine. Good on the > > > street, better than the stock Trail Wings off road. > > > > > > The Sherpa group is pretty active, although not as much as this > > > list: > > > > > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/1999-2003_SUPERSHERPA/ > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > T.W. Day wrote: > > > > I'm still in the "asking for advice on the KL250" mode, I hope > > this isn't > > > > too boring for the KLR'ers. I'm thinking about going full road > > tires on the > > > > KL. It, currently, has a pair of Dunlop knobbies and I am > > wearing them out > > > > fast. I expect to use the bike about 75/25 road/off-road and > > don't think I > > > > need off-road tires for anything I will be doing. I get along > > fine on my > > > > DL-650 with Metzler ME880 tires on the dirt roads I travel. The > > KL would be > > > > better on those roads with just the rims. ;-) Has anyone > > SuperMoto'd a KL > > > > with street tires and, if so, what tires did you use? > > > > > > > > T.W. Day > > > > HYPERLINK http://home.att.net/~twday http://home.att.net/~twday > > > > HYPERLINK "mailto:twday@"twday@ > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 0.0.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.10/908 - Release > Date: > > 7/19/2007 > > > > 6:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Michael Nelson

chain replacement

Post by Michael Nelson » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:16 pm

On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 03:14:08AM -0000, hobbhavnklr650 wrote:
> I looked but didn't see. Looked harder and now the book is open and > the page is grease smudged. The stock chain is off and the new chain > is long. Should I count links to size the chain or is there another > method and will I need a chain break to remove the excess links.
The appropriate length for the stock 43/15 gearing is 106 links. Michael -- "It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it's the parts that I do understand." --Mark Twain San Francisco, CA

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