flat corbin modded to semi-dished

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Kerry Stottlemyer
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oil for extreme temps?

Post by Kerry Stottlemyer » Fri May 18, 2007 9:50 pm

Instructions on back of bottle " remove side case and pack with putty knife. Next oil change dip engine in solvent tank" 25w70 and i thought 85w140 was thick
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "gmay131313" wrote: > > But it doesn'T say if you pump or shovel it into the motor :-) Greg > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kestrelfal" > wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.penrite.com.au/files/FYH2HKJF20/END-PIS.pdf > > > > > > "'Nuff said." LOL :) > > > > > > Fred > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Collins" > > wrote: > > > > > > Dose anybody here use Castrol GTX 20/50 wt. I ride some in the so. > > > California desert and need to find a good 20/50 wt oil to run in > the > > > summer time. I live in Big Bear City at 7000 feet so I would > switch > > > back to a 10/40 wt for winter. I see that Rotella has a 15w/40 > but no > > > 20/50. Is this good enough for temps well into the 100's. > > > > > >

gmay131313
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oil for extreme temps?

Post by gmay131313 » Fri May 18, 2007 10:13 pm

Something about oil temperature that might be of interest but may or may not have anything to do with KLR oil temps concerns my KZ650. Since it's air cooled it may provide a totally differennt story but after I put a Yoshimura 716cc kit + ported head, carb mods and header on it I was concerned about oil temps so I put on a thermostatically controlled oil cooler and a good quality water temperature gauge with the sendng plumbed in to measure oil sump temperature. I verified it at 210*f and found it to be pretty much right on so at least that much is a controlled test... :-). Anyway from what I remember once the bike had warmed up enough for the temperature to stabilize the oil temp in normal riding would run around 180 -190*f except on cold days, as a guess say below 6-7*C and even then it wasn't a lot cooler. On hot days, for Nova Scotia, say 26-30*C flogging the bike on a back road the temps would get up to somewhere around 210*f. If I remember right the oil got the hotest riding 2 up at a pretty relaxed steady pace maybe around 120kph or so and still then the highest temps I can remember were around 220*f. For years I typically ran 20-50 Castrol GTX but in later years switched to synthetic (Motul, Mobil, Motormaster) and seem to remember the temps to be enough cooler that it was quite noticeable although I don't remember by how much. Anyway not a very controlled test but maybe of some interest to some. An aside to this that is also perhaps of interest is that I still have this bike, I bought it new in '77, it has just over 100,000k on it but at about 85,000 I replaced a weaping head gasket an found the cylinders or cam bearing surfaces to be showing no noticeable wear. The 716cc kit was put in around 50,000k so the oil which I change between 4 and 5,000 is doing a good job. Anyway have a great weekend to all especially here where it's a long weekend.......Greg
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bill Watson wrote: > > You might want to determine how "extreme" the oil temps are in the first place. Most people don't get too fired up about oil temps until they exceed 250F, some people wait till 300F to get a plan together. > > I live in Phoenix AZ and have run a number of oil temp tests in the KLR. I'm more concerned with how low the oil temps are in normal riding and how long it takes to get up to temp. But oil temp is very load dependent, so high speed riding with lots of wind resistance on a hot day would be your worst case. I have "stock" wind resistance but did run a test one day when it was 110F, and rode at 75 mph indicated until oil temps stabilized - at just under 240F. For me that's an extreme case; it's much more common for me to see temps in the 180-210 range, and that's after 25 miles of riding before it stabilizes. > > So the point is you need to assess your riding condition. In my case, I don't consider these results to mean that my oil is at "extreme temps". But if you had a passenger, tall windshield, and panniers on a summer ride and drive fast, I'll bet you could get into an "extreme" temp range where that question is a valid one. > > Bill Watson > Phoenix, AZ > > > --------------------------------- > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. > Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

Kimosabe
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flat corbin modded to semi-dished

Post by Kimosabe » Fri May 18, 2007 10:45 pm

I suspect you could do the same with the stock KLR seat. I started with a flat Corbin seat and modded it to a semi-dished shape. This gives a reduced driver seat height without giving that deep trapped sensation of an old tractor seat like the Corbin dished seat. 1. I drilled the centers from the rivets holding the cover for the forward 2/3 or the seat and poked the remaining rivet bodies through the base, 2. peeled the cover back, 3. separated the foam from the aft 2/3 of the base using a long tipped flexible knife, 4. starting at a transverse ridge in the base between the rider and passenger positions, I reduced the thickness of the front half of the foam to 1 1/2 inches using a bread knife for slicing and nummerous 1 1/2 inch nails stuck through from the top of the foam to act as depth guides. 5. further shaped and smoothed the foam for final form using a coarse rasp, 6. using the foam as a guide, shortened the nose of the base by cutting perpendicular to the long axis 3 inches back from the front, overlapping it 1 1/4 inches with the base, and reattaching it to the bottom of the base using J&B Weld Epoxy and several screws with nuts (this is necessary to fit the cover over the foam and the base), 7. glued the foam back to the base with silicone and also used the glue to shape and fill in the gaps and rough spots at the edges, 8. stretched the cover over the foam and the base, working out wrinkles, 9. re-riveted cover to base using next size larger of pop rivets with thin washers to match. If you want to see the results, I can send you a pic. It's very comfortable and effective. Steve in Niceville from the underside of the foam forward of the --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "C L Cooper" wrote:
> > I have the flat one on my KLR. You can get the best of both the
flat and
> dished seats though. Corbin offers a one time seat customization
service
> (within some limits - no cover mod's) at no charge. You can make an > appointment, ride up and have them build the seat while you're
there, or
> have them send you the seat, ride for a while and get used to it,
then go in
> for the customization. > > My wife and I rode up the coast last fall on the VStrom and stopped
at
> Corbin in Hollister, CA for the seat customization. We were there
about
> fifteen minutes before they opened - about 6:45 AM. We were
expecting the
> usual service shop shuffle. As it turned out, it was really a fun > experience. They opened a little before 7:00AM, got the bike right
in the
> shop. There's a restaurant in the building with a window into the
shop so
> that you can watch the tech work on the seats. They comp'ed us
breakfast.
> The restaurant has lots of biker memorabilia, really pretty good
food
> and good coffee!!! At several points through the process they had
one or
> both of us come out and try the changes to that point. Sculpting
the seat
> really is an art form - fun to watch. We were out of the shop and
back on
> the road heading toward the coast by about 10:00AM. Very pleasant > experience! > > Chuck C > > > On 5/17/07, miniweed650 wrote: > > > > Has anyone recently installed a Corbin dished seat? I am new to
the
> > KLR and recently went on a moderate ride of about 350KM (about 210 > > miles for you south of the border) and had some pretty bad "monkey > > butt". I can barely touch flat footed with the stock seat, so I am > > looking at the dished version. Any feedback is appreciated. > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

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