mesh armored jacket--recommendation

[hijklr]

> Are you using Auto-Rx or LC20?

No additives whatsoever.

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "hijklr" wrote:

> > > Lastly, when you say oil gushes out, how much are we talking about? > > I change my oil with the bike on its sidestand, so that helps keep > > the oil inside the filter housing. The filter pulls a little oil > > with it when I pull it out, but it's easily absorbed by a paper towel. > > > I guess a quarter cup comes out when the bike is centered. >

I think that is normal. I always get some oil out of the filter housing.

[dooden]

Try leaning the bike against the garage wall or something so the right side it slightly over. If you noticed there is a small hole close to where the cover sits, if you lean the bike for a while the oil will drain down the hole and back to the bottom end. Discovered that the "first" time I changed oil and pulled a dripping oil soaked filter out. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "hijklr" wrote: > > The last 3 oil changes, I have noticed something strange. I remove the > drain bolt and the oil drains as usual. When I remove the filter cover, > alot of oil flows out, as if the oil can't settle back into the > engine. The beast runs terrific with no strange noises and oil appears > to be passing through the filter (specs of metal on the surface). My > first assumption is that the bypass valve (the doohickey you insert > into the filter) is defective. Any ideas? > Kevin > A17 > 21,000 smiles >

[Moose]

There's supposed to be a vale inside the tube? Mine is a hollow tube with a hole on two sides.... Blake Sobiloff wrote: On May 4, 2007, at 11:56 AM, hijklr wrote:

> As always, narrow end toward engine... the only way it fits.

Great! I have heard of folks managing to get the tube in backwards, so I wanted to double-check that with you. Are you able to actuate the valve inside the tube? Use a small screwdriver to push it. Sometimes they get jammed up. And, not that this would likely make a difference, but what brand of filter are you using? Lastly, when you say oil gushes out, how much are we talking about? I change my oil with the bike on its sidestand, so that helps keep the oil inside the filter housing. The filter pulls a little oil with it when I pull it out, but it's easily absorbed by a paper towel. -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/> http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> San Jose, CA (USA) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Doug Herr]

On Fri, 4 May 2007, Moose wrote:

> There's supposed to be a vale inside the tube? Mine is a hollow tube with a hole on two sides....

Yup, without a valve I am pretty sure you are not getting any/much filtration. See: http://klr6500.tripod.com/oil-filter-tube.jpg Visible hole on the left is open. Visible hole one the right is currently blocked by the valve. Clear as mud? -- Doug Herr doug@... A16 in Oakland, California

[Bill Watson]

I remove the drain bolt and the oil drains as usual. When I remove the filter cover, alot of oil flows out, as if the oil can't settle back into the engine. Any ideas? Kevin ------- Kevin, that sounds normal. You don't WANT that oil to "drain back into the engine" when you shut it off - if it did, then during the next engine start, the engine would have no oil pressure as the oil pump was refilling the oil filter cavity. It's designed the way it is to have oil pressure as early as possible at each engine start. Bill Watson Phoenix, AZ --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[RM]

On Fri, 4 May 2007 15:22:25 -0700 (PDT), "Bill Watson" said:

> I remove the drain bolt and the oil drains as usual. When I remove the > filter cover, alot of oil flows out, as if the oil can't settle back > into the engine. Any ideas?

My filter cavity is always full if I open it up after riding. It's always empty if I let the bike sit overnight. To avoid the mess, I do oil changes before a ride and not after. RM

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

I agree. When I first did an oil change I was surprised when I removed the cover, and very little oil was there. I was expecting a mess. Second oil change, I had a mess. The difference is overnight sitting, compared to a change after running. Let it sit overnight. I live in CA, so heating the oil before draining is not a concern. If your bike is sitting outside in 20 degree weather, then you should probably heat oil up a bit before draining. Jeff A20 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Norm Keller]

It's normal for some oil to run out of the filter housing. Why is this a concern? Watch out about poking the by-pass valve too strongly as there's no need to damage the coil spring or burr the bore. Norm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Ed Chait]

----- Original Message ----- From: "RM" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re:Oil Change Concern > On Fri, 4 May 2007 15:22:25 -0700 (PDT), "Bill Watson" > said: > >> I remove the drain bolt and the oil drains as usual. When I remove the >> filter cover, alot of oil flows out, as if the oil can't settle back >> into the engine. Any ideas? > > My filter cavity is always full if I open it up after riding. It's > always empty if I let the bike sit overnight. To avoid the mess, I do > oil changes before a ride and not after. > > RM The only problem with that is that I like to change my oil when it's hot because it drains more completely and takes more dirt with it. I always do oil changes in cars and bikes after getting the oil nice and hot. ed A17