----- Original Message ----- From: "E.L. Green" To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Question About Tires | --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, matteeanne@. .. wrote: | > Ive tried most popular brands. The Avon Gripster m-24 is by far the | best 50/50 tire. | | Err, the Gripster is a street tire. | | Right now I have Continental TKC-80's on my bike. Handle pretty good | on the street (no squirm!), do pretty good on the trail (the knobs are | too big to bite as well as a real knobby into dirt surfaces, but they | clean out well on mud and gravel and tractor you out of loose stuff | just fine). The Kenda 270 is also popular if you do more dirt than | street (it squirms on the street and also is slick in the wet). The | Kenda 761 is more street-oriented than the 270 but more usable on dirt | than the Avon Gripster. | | Don't get me wrong, I have Gripsters in my garage too, but they're | going on my bike before my next 5,000 mile highway trip, not for 50-50 | use -- they're more a 90-9-1 tire (i.e. 90% pavement, 9% gravel, 1% | offroad). | | _E | | | | List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews. com | List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/ klr650faq. html | Member Map at: http://www.frappr com/dsnklr650 | Yahoo! Groups Links | | | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.16/729 - Release Date: 3/21/2007 7:52 AM | | ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2008 klr versus wee vstrom...becoming nklr
question about tires
Damn I hate being right all the time ;o)
Sean Brown
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 4:19:04 PM
Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Question About Tires
This was found on the "internet" so it must be true
these ratings are given in the "german way", that means 1 is the best and 5 the
worst.
Dry Wet Dirt Noise Wear Overall
Avon Gripster AM24 2.5 3.3 2.0 3.7 2.5 3.0
Bridgestone TW47/48 4.0 3.2 3.0 2.0 2.4 3.2
Continental TK60/70 2.6 3.0 3.5 3.3 1.5 2.7
Dunlop Trailmax 2.5 2.9 3.5 3.0 2.7 2.9
Metzeler Enduro 3 2.7 2.4 3.0 4.0 2.9 2.8
Metzeler Enduro 4 2.3 2.5 3.0 3.2 2.2 2.5
Metzeler ME33/55A 2.2 3.1 4.0 3.0 2.5 3.0
Michelin T65 2.5 2.8 2.0 2.2 2.9 2.6
Michelin T66 2.5 2.6 2.5 3.0 2.5 2.6
Pirelli MT50 2.6 2.9 3.0 3.5 3.2 2.9
Pirelli MT60 2.5 2.4 3.0 3.0 3.6 2.9
Yokohama E705 2.7 3.3 3.5 3.3 2.2 3.0
Avon Gripster AM24:
Best ratings off-road, worst on wet roads. At two tires parts of the profile
blocks flew away.
a.. PERFORMS EQUALLY WELL ON HIGHWAYS AND CROSS COUNTRY TRAILS
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The so-called Gripsters considered even the thinnest layer of sand on
asphalt to be teflon. I got rid of them as soon as I could and
bought Trail Wings 21 and 22, great for mainly road but with enough
bite for most of my off-road riding except deepest mud and sand.
Steve in Niceville
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "J Fortner"
wrote:
Gripester rear> > On 3/22/07, Mike Peplinski wrote: > > Its not called the "slipster" for nothing. I didn't like my
> > tire at all for mud or grass. > > > The lack of gripster traction in wet grass and mud is deadly. The > gripster offers great wear and traction in hot dry environments. > jf >
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I`m not expert on the Gripsters but the wife and I have been riding
them on our two KLR`s since January 17th in Mexico, Guatemala, El
Salvador, Honduras, Sunday in Belize and Monday back in Mexico.
We ve travelled less than I though we would, only 4400 miles so far.
The Gripsters have been a perfect tire for the road conditions down
here. I don t consider them a 50-50 tire but more of the 80-20. The
one time I did touch a bit of mud, the slipster in them showed up
but our conditions have been mostly dry on an off road. They are
wearing great also, I don t, at this time, expect to have to replace
them before we leave Mexico on April 15.
In the US, I have new pairs of Mefo s waiting for me at Fred s in
Moab when I get back next month.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, matteeanne@... wrote: > > Ive tried most popular brands. The Avon Gripster m-24 is by far the best 50/50 tire. It is more expensive but I have 6000 miles on my current set and still 30-40% tread left. No need to replace front is same type tire but if changing brand you may want to consider it. > > Sean Brown > Looking for the perfect gift for the wife/Mom/or "the person who has everything?" > www.brownsbirdestates.com matteeanne@... > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mpowell_98828_2 > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:46:50 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Question About Tires > > I put about 3500 miles on my 2006 KLR-650 last summer. I guess I spend > about half the time on the road and half off road. My off road use is > not particularly extreme--mostly logging roads, some rocks and dust and > gravel with some occasional mud. My rear stock tire is showing a lot > of wear. My last few rides last year produced a little bit of slipping > off the road due to the wear. My question is two-fold: > > 1. What recommendations do you have for a good, all-purpose tire for > the use I described. > 2. Is it necessary to change the front tire as well, even though it > shows little wear? > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ _______________ > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:46:50 -0000 "mpowell_98828_2"
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<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> mpowell, You don't say how aggressive you are on pavement but assuming you ride in a safe and sane manner I suggest you consider Kenda K270s. I like the 3.00 x 21 on the front and 5.10 x 17 on the rear. I think the 3.00 allows for faster steering compared with a 3.25 front. I also put extra heavy duty tubes in my Kendas as that's like putting a tire inside a tire. I think you can get the tubes from Fred at www.arrowheadmotorsports.com . Some folks think the rear feels like it is going to walk out on you in a hard corner. I'd agree that when new and for the first 300 or so smiles under aggressive cornering it may feel like that. But that also acts like a self limiter for me which is good. I get about 6,000 smiles from a rear in the type of conditions you describe and I get over 10,000 smiles from a front. I run 32 psi front and 36 psi rear on pavement. Off road I'll either leave it there if it's just a short trip or let it drop to maybe 22-24 front and 26-28 or so rear. I don't think you must change the front when you put a Kenda on the rear but I did. Cost is pretty low when it comes to cost per mile. Best prices I've found for the Kendas when they're in stock is at www.rockymountainatv.com . Another place that may have them but I haven't visited their web site in over a year is www.swmototire.com . Or maybe it's www.swmototires.com . Blake there used to ship for free if you bought two tires. I always had great service from them. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT> I put about 3500 miles on my 2006 KLR-650 last summer. I guess I > spend > about half the time on the road and half off road. My off road use > is > not particularly extreme--mostly logging roads, some rocks and dust > and > gravel with some occasional mud. My rear stock tire is showing a > lot > of wear. My last few rides last year produced a little bit of > slipping > off the road due to the wear. My question is two-fold: > > 1. What recommendations do you have for a good, all-purpose tire > for > the use I described. > 2. Is it necessary to change the front tire as well, even though > it > shows little wear?
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:46:50 -0000 "mpowell_98828_2"
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<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> mpowell, You don't say how aggressive you are on pavement but assuming you ride in a safe and sane manner I suggest you consider Kenda K270s. I like the 3.00 x 21 on the front and 5.10 x 17 on the rear. I think the 3.00 allows for faster steering compared with a 3.25 front. I also put extra heavy duty tubes in my Kendas as that's like putting a tire inside a tire. I think you can get the tubes from Fred at www.arrowheadmotorsports.com . Some folks think the rear feels like it is going to walk out on you in a hard corner. I'd agree that when new and for the first 300 or so smiles under aggressive cornering it may feel like that. But that also acts like a self limiter for me which is good. I get about 6,000 smiles from a rear in the type of conditions you describe and I get over 10,000 smiles from a front. I run 32 psi front and 36 psi rear on pavement. Off road I'll either leave it there if it's just a short trip or let it drop to maybe 22-24 front and 26-28 or so rear. I don't think you must change the front when you put a Kenda on the rear but I did. Cost is pretty low when it comes to cost per mile. Best prices I've found for the Kendas when they're in stock is at www.rockymountainatv.com . Another place that may have them but I haven't visited their web site in over a year is www.swmototire.com . Or maybe it's www.swmototires.com . Blake there used to ship for free if you bought two tires. I always had great service from them. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT> I put about 3500 miles on my 2006 KLR-650 last summer. I guess I > spend > about half the time on the road and half off road. My off road use > is > not particularly extreme--mostly logging roads, some rocks and dust > and > gravel with some occasional mud. My rear stock tire is showing a > lot > of wear. My last few rides last year produced a little bit of > slipping > off the road due to the wear. My question is two-fold: > > 1. What recommendations do you have for a good, all-purpose tire > for > the use I described. > 2. Is it necessary to change the front tire as well, even though > it > shows little wear?
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:46:50 -0000 "mpowell_98828_2"
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<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> mpowell, You don't say how aggressive you are on pavement but assuming you ride in a safe and sane manner I suggest you consider Kenda K270s. I like the 3.00 x 21 on the front and 5.10 x 17 on the rear. I think the 3.00 allows for faster steering compared with a 3.25 front. I also put extra heavy duty tubes in my Kendas as that's like putting a tire inside a tire. I think you can get the tubes from Fred at www.arrowheadmotorsports.com . Some folks think the rear feels like it is going to walk out on you in a hard corner. I'd agree that when new and for the first 300 or so smiles under aggressive cornering it may feel like that. But that also acts like a self limiter for me which is good. I get about 6,000 smiles from a rear in the type of conditions you describe and I get over 10,000 smiles from a front. I run 32 psi front and 36 psi rear on pavement. Off road I'll either leave it there if it's just a short trip or let it drop to maybe 22-24 front and 26-28 or so rear. I don't think you must change the front when you put a Kenda on the rear but I did. Cost is pretty low when it comes to cost per mile. Best prices I've found for the Kendas when they're in stock is at www.rockymountainatv.com . Another place that may have them but I haven't visited their web site in over a year is www.swmototire.com . Or maybe it's www.swmototires.com . Blake there used to ship for free if you bought two tires. I always had great service from them. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT> I put about 3500 miles on my 2006 KLR-650 last summer. I guess I > spend > about half the time on the road and half off road. My off road use > is > not particularly extreme--mostly logging roads, some rocks and dust > and > gravel with some occasional mud. My rear stock tire is showing a > lot > of wear. My last few rides last year produced a little bit of > slipping > off the road due to the wear. My question is two-fold: > > 1. What recommendations do you have for a good, all-purpose tire > for > the use I described. > 2. Is it necessary to change the front tire as well, even though > it > shows little wear?
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:46:50 -0000 "mpowell_98828_2"
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<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> mpowell, You don't say how aggressive you are on pavement but assuming you ride in a safe and sane manner I suggest you consider Kenda K270s. I like the 3.00 x 21 on the front and 5.10 x 17 on the rear. I think the 3.00 allows for faster steering compared with a 3.25 front. I also put extra heavy duty tubes in my Kendas as that's like putting a tire inside a tire. I think you can get the tubes from Fred at www.arrowheadmotorsports.com . Some folks think the rear feels like it is going to walk out on you in a hard corner. I'd agree that when new and for the first 300 or so smiles under aggressive cornering it may feel like that. But that also acts like a self limiter for me which is good. I get about 6,000 smiles from a rear in the type of conditions you describe and I get over 10,000 smiles from a front. I run 32 psi front and 36 psi rear on pavement. Off road I'll either leave it there if it's just a short trip or let it drop to maybe 22-24 front and 26-28 or so rear. I don't think you must change the front when you put a Kenda on the rear but I did. Cost is pretty low when it comes to cost per mile. Best prices I've found for the Kendas when they're in stock is at www.rockymountainatv.com . Another place that may have them but I haven't visited their web site in over a year is www.swmototire.com . Or maybe it's www.swmototires.com . Blake there used to ship for free if you bought two tires. I always had great service from them. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT> I put about 3500 miles on my 2006 KLR-650 last summer. I guess I > spend > about half the time on the road and half off road. My off road use > is > not particularly extreme--mostly logging roads, some rocks and dust > and > gravel with some occasional mud. My rear stock tire is showing a > lot > of wear. My last few rides last year produced a little bit of > slipping > off the road due to the wear. My question is two-fold: > > 1. What recommendations do you have for a good, all-purpose tire > for > the use I described. > 2. Is it necessary to change the front tire as well, even though > it > shows little wear?
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:46:50 -0000 "mpowell_98828_2"
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<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> mpowell, You don't say how aggressive you are on pavement but assuming you ride in a safe and sane manner I suggest you consider Kenda K270s. I like the 3.00 x 21 on the front and 5.10 x 17 on the rear. I think the 3.00 allows for faster steering compared with a 3.25 front. I also put extra heavy duty tubes in my Kendas as that's like putting a tire inside a tire. I think you can get the tubes from Fred at www.arrowheadmotorsports.com . Some folks think the rear feels like it is going to walk out on you in a hard corner. I'd agree that when new and for the first 300 or so smiles under aggressive cornering it may feel like that. But that also acts like a self limiter for me which is good. I get about 6,000 smiles from a rear in the type of conditions you describe and I get over 10,000 smiles from a front. I run 32 psi front and 36 psi rear on pavement. Off road I'll either leave it there if it's just a short trip or let it drop to maybe 22-24 front and 26-28 or so rear. I don't think you must change the front when you put a Kenda on the rear but I did. Cost is pretty low when it comes to cost per mile. Best prices I've found for the Kendas when they're in stock is at www.rockymountainatv.com . Another place that may have them but I haven't visited their web site in over a year is www.swmototire.com . Or maybe it's www.swmototires.com . Blake there used to ship for free if you bought two tires. I always had great service from them. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT> I put about 3500 miles on my 2006 KLR-650 last summer. I guess I > spend > about half the time on the road and half off road. My off road use > is > not particularly extreme--mostly logging roads, some rocks and dust > and > gravel with some occasional mud. My rear stock tire is showing a > lot > of wear. My last few rides last year produced a little bit of > slipping > off the road due to the wear. My question is two-fold: > > 1. What recommendations do you have for a good, all-purpose tire > for > the use I described. > 2. Is it necessary to change the front tire as well, even though > it > shows little wear?
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:46:50 -0000 "mpowell_98828_2"
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<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> mpowell, You don't say how aggressive you are on pavement but assuming you ride in a safe and sane manner I suggest you consider Kenda K270s. I like the 3.00 x 21 on the front and 5.10 x 17 on the rear. I think the 3.00 allows for faster steering compared with a 3.25 front. I also put extra heavy duty tubes in my Kendas as that's like putting a tire inside a tire. I think you can get the tubes from Fred at www.arrowheadmotorsports.com . Some folks think the rear feels like it is going to walk out on you in a hard corner. I'd agree that when new and for the first 300 or so smiles under aggressive cornering it may feel like that. But that also acts like a self limiter for me which is good. I get about 6,000 smiles from a rear in the type of conditions you describe and I get over 10,000 smiles from a front. I run 32 psi front and 36 psi rear on pavement. Off road I'll either leave it there if it's just a short trip or let it drop to maybe 22-24 front and 26-28 or so rear. I don't think you must change the front when you put a Kenda on the rear but I did. Cost is pretty low when it comes to cost per mile. Best prices I've found for the Kendas when they're in stock is at www.rockymountainatv.com . Another place that may have them but I haven't visited their web site in over a year is www.swmototire.com . Or maybe it's www.swmototires.com . Blake there used to ship for free if you bought two tires. I always had great service from them. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT> I put about 3500 miles on my 2006 KLR-650 last summer. I guess I > spend > about half the time on the road and half off road. My off road use > is > not particularly extreme--mostly logging roads, some rocks and dust > and > gravel with some occasional mud. My rear stock tire is showing a > lot > of wear. My last few rides last year produced a little bit of > slipping > off the road due to the wear. My question is two-fold: > > 1. What recommendations do you have for a good, all-purpose tire > for > the use I described. > 2. Is it necessary to change the front tire as well, even though > it > shows little wear?
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:46:50 -0000 "mpowell_98828_2"
writes:
<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> mpowell, You don't say how aggressive you are on pavement but assuming you ride in a safe and sane manner I suggest you consider Kenda K270s. I like the 3.00 x 21 on the front and 5.10 x 17 on the rear. I think the 3.00 allows for faster steering compared with a 3.25 front. I also put extra heavy duty tubes in my Kendas as that's like putting a tire inside a tire. I think you can get the tubes from Fred at www.arrowheadmotorsports.com . Some folks think the rear feels like it is going to walk out on you in a hard corner. I'd agree that when new and for the first 300 or so smiles under aggressive cornering it may feel like that. But that also acts like a self limiter for me which is good. I get about 6,000 smiles from a rear in the type of conditions you describe and I get over 10,000 smiles from a front. I run 32 psi front and 36 psi rear on pavement. Off road I'll either leave it there if it's just a short trip or let it drop to maybe 22-24 front and 26-28 or so rear. I don't think you must change the front when you put a Kenda on the rear but I did. Cost is pretty low when it comes to cost per mile. Best prices I've found for the Kendas when they're in stock is at www.rockymountainatv.com . Another place that may have them but I haven't visited their web site in over a year is www.swmototire.com . Or maybe it's www.swmototires.com . Blake there used to ship for free if you bought two tires. I always had great service from them. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT> I put about 3500 miles on my 2006 KLR-650 last summer. I guess I > spend > about half the time on the road and half off road. My off road use > is > not particularly extreme--mostly logging roads, some rocks and dust > and > gravel with some occasional mud. My rear stock tire is showing a > lot > of wear. My last few rides last year produced a little bit of > slipping > off the road due to the wear. My question is two-fold: > > 1. What recommendations do you have for a good, all-purpose tire > for > the use I described. > 2. Is it necessary to change the front tire as well, even though > it > shows little wear?
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