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Blake Sobiloff
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Post by Blake Sobiloff » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:02 pm

On Jan 15, 2007, at 9:05 AM, RM wrote:
> I think he means no hard drives. Flash memory only.
Bingo--RM understands "Blakenglish". :-) -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/> http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> San Jose, CA (USA) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Don S
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Post by Don S » Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:26 pm

Yeah that's right Jud. It's the back pack model with the asbestos heat shield and mini generator. Can't figure how that arrangement got off the ground with the weight, heat and noise, the MP3 tube type player gets old real quick. Well, you know those "tube aficionados"..very discriminating ears! Kind of like a certain motorcycle brand whose name I fear to even mention. Jud Jones wrote: --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "riverman051955" wrote:
> > > where can i find one of those tube type "mp3" players Ive been looking > for one of those for years? >
They are right next to the magnetic tankbags for IMS tanks. --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

C L Cooper
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Post by C L Cooper » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:33 pm

I have my transistor MP3 player firmly mounted in my GIVI E-45 top case.... ;~)
On 1/15/07, Don S wrote: > > > Hey Blake: > > Re your comment below. Would that be as opposed to tube type? If so, I > heartily agree. > > "Any solid state MP3 player will do well on a motorcycle." > > Don > > > > > --------------------------------- > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and > hotel bargains. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

C L Cooper
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Post by C L Cooper » Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:50 am

Garth, Transistor MP3 in my Givi case... just my lame attempt at humor. ;~) Transistor radios were the "hot" new technology when I was in my mid-teens. Really dates me doesn't it. The only place I've seen a transistor recently is in a Radio Shack educational electronics project kit. Microcircuitry has made them so obsolete that unless you're over forty you've probably never seen one. Two types for those who recollect, NPN, PNP. I've been looking for one "something" that I can plug in to my intercom unit that will give me phone, music, GPS, emergency locator beacon, coffee and a good back massage at the end of a day of riding. The closest thing I've seen is the new Apple iPhone. It's supposed to be a combination iPod, phone, digital camera, dessert topping, floor wax, chain lube and mobile internet communicator all running on a portable OS X platform. The phones are supposed to be available in the US in June with Cingular/AT&T service. Latest on cost is between US$499 [4 GB] and $599 [8 GB] with a two year contract. Check out Apple's new iPhone page at *[url=http://www.apple.com/iphone/*http://www.apple.com/iphone/*>for info and a demo of the iPhone's new features. Even if you aren't remotely interested in buying an iPhone, visit Apple's page and take a look at some of the iPhone's features. My guess is that you're going to see a LOT of these features in other consumer electronic products in the years to come. Steve Jobs is an amazingly visionary guy... and/or he knows how to find, hire and get the best out of visionary techs. I've never been a fan of Apple computers, but I have to respect his vision, tenacity, luck??? For more in-depth information about the iPhone, Engadget has a minute by minute recap of Steve Jobs' Macworld keynote presentation at * http://tinyurl.com/yyfb9f* http://tinyurl.com/yyfb9f> and Apple has posted a video of Steve Jobs' keynote at *http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/ * http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/>. Very cool stuff IMO! I don't know what your status is there in Afghanistan. I assume you're with the military. All the best to you. Thanks! Good luck on your trip from Oregon to New York this spring. Regards, Chuck C San Diego
On 1/22/07, Garth Furler wrote: > > Don't know what specifically you guys are talking > about. To clarify however: MP3 players can have two > seperate types of storage capability. The MP3 Players > that are generally under 8 Gigs use a flash drive (no > moving parts). MP3 Players over 8 Gigs generally use > a small hard drive. The 30 Gig and 80 Gig IPOD use a > hard drive. A hard drive has a spinning multitiered > disk with needles that read off of it (somewhat like a > record player), therefore it has a higher probability > of getting broken. 8 Gigs of space is approximately > 2,000 songs. 30 Gigs is approximately 7,500 songs. A > flash based memory MP3 Player is more durable and > would be recommended for alot of off road. I have a > 30 Gig Ipod that I will be using for a trip from > Oregon to New York in April. I have an Otterbox case > for it that is waterproof to 1 meter. I plan to > modify the box and make it waterproof to a deeper > level. Cost approx $60. H20 Audio also makes a case > for the ipod which is waterproof to 10 Meters. Happy > Shopping. > > Garth Furler > Currently in Afghanistan > 2005 Green KLR 650 > > > --- C L Cooper wrote: > > > I have my transistor MP3 player firmly mounted in my > > GIVI E-45 top case.... > > ;~) > > > > On 1/15/07, Don S wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey Blake: > > > > > > Re your comment below. Would that be as opposed to > > tube type? If so, I > > > heartily agree. > > > > > > "Any solid state MP3 player will do well on a > > motorcycle." > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > > > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel > > sites to find flight and > > > hotel bargains. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate > in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dave Svoboda
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Post by Dave Svoboda » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:26 pm

Hi, Chuck, iPod is unquestionably a bandwagon, and you are very welcome to hop on that bandwagon if you so desire. But be aware that many, many mobile phones nowadays are a phone, mp3 player, digital camera, mobile Internet and GPS router. Not to mention mobile TV, Bluetooth, and broadband. These features, or even this combination of features, is not limited to iPhone, but rather is available in just about every high- end phone of every service provider. iPhone is actually a bit behind the feature curve, packaged and riding on the coattails of the very smartly marketed iPod. It may well be successful. Or maybe people will balk at spending $600 for a phone with contract, when they can get a similar item for $400 or less. I suggest you make a visit to cellular stores of the major service providers in your area, and tell the reps what features you want, and you'll see. - Dave Svoboda, Sandy Eggo (Who works for a mobile phone manufacturer, so I'm paid to know this stuff.) At 09:40 AM 1/23/2007 -0800, C L Cooper wrote:
>I've been looking for one "something" that I can plug in to my intercom unit >that will give me phone, music, GPS, emergency locator beacon, coffee and a >good back massage at the end of a day of riding. The closest thing I've seen >is the new Apple iPhone. It's supposed to be a combination iPod, phone, >digital camera, dessert topping, floor wax, chain lube and mobile internet >communicator all running on a portable OS X platform. The phones are >supposed to be available in the US in June with Cingular/AT&T service. >Latest on cost is between US$499 [4 GB] and $599 [8 GB] with a two year >contract.
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C L Cooper
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Post by C L Cooper » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:49 pm

Dave, Good info. Thanks! Haven't hopped on the iPhone bandwagon yet. I'm still looking for "something" that includes coffee and a good back massage. Anything like that on the horizon ;~) Chuck C San Diego, CA
On 1/23/07, Dave Svoboda wrote: > > Hi, Chuck, > > iPod is unquestionably a bandwagon, and you are very welcome to hop on > that > bandwagon if you so desire. > > But be aware that many, many mobile phones nowadays are a phone, mp3 > player, digital camera, mobile Internet and GPS router. Not to mention > mobile > TV, Bluetooth, and broadband. These features, or even this combination of > features, is not limited to iPhone, but rather is available in just about > every high- > end phone of every service provider. > > iPhone is actually a bit behind the feature curve, packaged and riding on > the > coattails of the very smartly marketed iPod. It may well be successful. Or > maybe people will balk at spending $600 for a phone with contract, when > they can get a similar item for $400 or less. > > I suggest you make a visit to cellular stores of the major service > providers in your > area, and tell the reps what features you want, and you'll see. > > - Dave Svoboda, Sandy Eggo > (Who works for a mobile phone manufacturer, so I'm paid to know this > stuff.) > > At 09:40 AM 1/23/2007 -0800, C L Cooper wrote: > >I've been looking for one "something" that I can plug in to my intercom > unit > >that will give me phone, music, GPS, emergency locator beacon, coffee and > a > >good back massage at the end of a day of riding. The closest thing I've > seen > >is the new Apple iPhone. It's supposed to be a combination iPod, phone, > >digital camera, dessert topping, floor wax, chain lube and mobile > internet > >communicator all running on a portable OS X platform. The phones are > >supposed to be available in the US in June with Cingular/AT&T service. > >Latest on cost is between US$499 [4 GB] and $599 [8 GB] with a two year > >contract. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Donald Dickerson
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Post by Donald Dickerson » Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:15 pm

After reading all of these notes and suggestions about MP3 players, I think I'll stick with my noise cancelling headphones and $30 MP3 CD player. 150 songs on a CD, set it to random play and ride. $500 for an MP3 player? Ouch... --- C L Cooper wrote:
> Dave, > > Good info. Thanks! > > Haven't hopped on the iPhone bandwagon yet. I'm still looking for > "something" that includes coffee and a good back massage. Anything > like that > on the horizon ;~) > > Chuck C > San Diego, CA > > > On 1/23/07, Dave Svoboda wrote: > > > > Hi, Chuck, > > > > iPod is unquestionably a bandwagon, and you are very welcome to hop > on > > that > > bandwagon if you so desire. > > > > But be aware that many, many mobile phones nowadays are a phone, > mp3 > > player, digital camera, mobile Internet and GPS router. Not to > mention > > mobile > > TV, Bluetooth, and broadband. These features, or even this > combination of > > features, is not limited to iPhone, but rather is available in just > about > > every high- > > end phone of every service provider. > > > > iPhone is actually a bit behind the feature curve, packaged and > riding on > > the > > coattails of the very smartly marketed iPod. It may well be > successful. Or > > maybe people will balk at spending $600 for a phone with contract, > when > > they can get a similar item for $400 or less. > > > > I suggest you make a visit to cellular stores of the major service > > providers in your > > area, and tell the reps what features you want, and you'll see. > > > > - Dave Svoboda, Sandy Eggo > > (Who works for a mobile phone manufacturer, so I'm paid to know > this > > stuff.) > > > > At 09:40 AM 1/23/2007 -0800, C L Cooper wrote: > > >I've been looking for one "something" that I can plug in to my > intercom > > unit > > >that will give me phone, music, GPS, emergency locator beacon, > coffee and > > a > > >good back massage at the end of a day of riding. The closest thing > I've > > seen > > >is the new Apple iPhone. It's supposed to be a combination iPod, > phone, > > >digital camera, dessert topping, floor wax, chain lube and mobile > > internet > > >communicator all running on a portable OS X platform. The phones > are > > >supposed to be available in the US in June with Cingular/AT&T > service. > > >Latest on cost is between US$499 [4 GB] and $599 [8 GB] with a two > year > > >contract. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
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Post by Mike Sturgill » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:00 pm

Hello Donald, I haven't really been following this thread, so forgive me if this info has already been conveyed to you. I just bought my son an MP3 player and here are the features that I really liked. 1) 1 GB built in memory (~500 mp3s depending on their length) 2) Expansion SD memory slot. This allows you to plug in an SD memory card with additional songs on it. Currently a 1 GB SD card can be had for about $10. With this slot, you can essentially infinitely expand your memory by just plugging in an additional SD card whenever you want. 3) Built in FM tuner 4) Built in voice recorder. Speak and record anything you'd like. Also records the FM tuner. 5) Charges the battery off the USB port. It's a Scandisk Sansa c240 (http://tinyurl.com/2qked5). I bought it at Best Buy on sale for about $70. -Mike Phoenix, AZ A7F Donald Dickerson wrote:
> After reading all of these notes and suggestions about MP3 players, I > think I'll stick with my noise cancelling headphones and $30 MP3 CD > player. 150 songs on a CD, set it to random play and ride. > > $500 for an MP3 player? Ouch... > > > >

Dave Svoboda
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Post by Dave Svoboda » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:07 pm

At 12:15 PM 1/23/2007 -0800, Donald Dickerson wrote:
>After reading all of these notes and suggestions about MP3 players, I >think I'll stick with my noise cancelling headphones and $30 MP3 CD >player. 150 songs on a CD, set it to random play and ride.
I've got one of those MP3 CD players, from iRiver, I think. Bulky, but very neat. Not too happy with the battery life, though. Amazing vibration and shock resistance; they can buffer a whole lot, since the MP3 data rate is so low. As far as MP3 players, I like the Creative line. My wife has a Zen Vision with a HD and a VERY cool OLED display for pictures and such, the first I've seen. OTOH, I have an Ebay HongKong special that looks like a big thumb drive, with a USB in one end, and an SD card port in the other, and has no memory of its own, which means it shares music media with my Palm TX. And SD cards are smaller and easier to load up than MP3CDs. I use KOSS foam plugs in the moto helmet sometimes. Donald, do you have a active-noise-cancelling in-helmet solution that works? I've seen earplug solutions, but they use the active cancellation pickup on the battery unit, which would be worse than nothing if used in a helmet. I see the Sony MDR-NC11 on Ebay, which seems to fit the bill. Anyone here every try to stuff a pair of those in a helmet? - Dave Svoboda, Sandy Eggo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Post by Charles » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:20 am

----- Original Message -----
> I've been looking for one "something" that I can plug in to my intercom > unit > that will give me phone, music, GPS, emergency locator beacon, coffee and > a > good back massage at the end of a day of riding.
I've been seeing the "news" on the iPhone, and so far I am not really impressed. For one thing, I already have the 80GB iPod video, and don't need another one. For another, the touchscreen, IMO, leaves open the screen for scratches (we have computers with touchscreens at work, and the surfaces DO wear. Finally, the idea of cleaning body oils off the display every time I take a call is a PITA. Yeah, you have to do that with a regular phone, too, but on a much smaller display. Well, I recently upgraded my cell phone (I have Cingular service) to the Sony Ericsson w300i. The reason for the upgrade is we needed another cell phone (I have 3 on my plan and one was quite old), and the w300i has an MP3 Walkman built in. You can get a M2 memory stick for it, which will hold 1 GB of music. Mine has 207 songs on it, and it is almost full. http://www.mobiledia.com/reviews/sonyericsson/w300i/page1.html I walk for exercise (more often in warmer weather - been too cold lately to suit me), and I always carried both my iPod and a phone. Well, as much as I like my iPod, it's a bit bulky, and also why carry two items? Besides, I mainly got the iPod for my car, as I didn't want all my CDs in the car. The phone comes with a combination "handsfree", and stereo earbud setup. The earbuds have some of the best "in the ear" type speakers I have seen; they really block off outside noise, and fit my ear well. Also, if a call comes in, you press the button on the handsfree microphone and the walkman is paused while you take the call. I do not know how the handsfree works on a bike, as I have yet to ride with the phone - been too cold, and my car has heat. Anyway, this is an option if you forget about the GPS, ELB, coffee, and back massage. :-) Chuck F. NE PA

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