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I have a Widder and am happy with it but several of my friends have vests from http://www.gr8designs.com and really like them. They are made from a fabric that conducts and warms. It is supposed to be more even heat at lower power, important for the KLR. It is supposed to be the stuff that heated automotive seats are made of. When the guy demos it he will poke a screw driver through it and it doesn't interrupt the circuit. I have not tried it but have friends who would be willing to comment. YMMV, MMc

[Brad Davis]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Mark McCoy" wrote:

> I have a Widder and am happy with it but several of my friends have

vests

> from http://www.gr8designs.com and really like them. They are made

from a

> fabric that conducts and warms. > YMMV, > MMc

I have seen an article on this product in one of my magazines. I can look for it and scan it if anyone is interested. Brad

[Brad Davis]

Ed, I placed the Cassiar article in the photos section. Brad --- Duvall Ed wrote:

> I'm very interested... :^) Thanks! > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Brad Davis" > wrote: > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Mark McCoy" > wrote: > > > I have a Widder and am happy with it but several > of my friends > have > > vests > > > from http://www.gr8designs.com and really like > them. They are > made > > from a > > > fabric that conducts and warms. > > > YMMV, > > > MMc > > > > I have seen an article on this product in one of > my magazines. I can > > look for it and scan it if anyone is interested. > > Brad >

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[Michelle Lynne]

Thank you all for your assistance is Electric Vest research. Ithought this would be an easy task but it is proving to be more of an enigma than anything. I've reviewed all the websites that everyone has beenkind enough to provide, and I find myself more confused than I should be. So, before I decide to just give my husband a check for $200 and tell him to choose his own vest, I wouldd like to make a little effort to select one myself. Please forgive my ignorance, but here are my questions: 1) How hot do these vests need to get? Several of the recommended ones only go to 84-88 degrees at 10 minutes. is this their maximum heat - is 121 degrees necessary? The ride temperatures will range from 45 down to 0. 2) I understand the wattage use will depend slightly on the temperature at which the vest is kept, however, is there an ideal wattage draw? The most popular recommendations I recieved were for the Aerostitch Kanetsu (unobtainium) - $137 and the Widder vest (with collar) ~ $200.00. When I read the reviews from Rider Magazine, I found myself leaning towards the Gerbings, which uses 95 watts buts goes up to 121 degrees. Second choice was the Widder with arm chaps and maybe a collar - 88 degrees and 69 watts. I apologize in advance for assking ignorant questions. I would like buy the best product possible that will allow for the maximum enjoyment of the rider. Again, thank you for your replies. Michelle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

[John Irvine]

The current draw isn't an issue on a goldwing but is for the KLR, use the widder and you have enough juice left for heated grips. --- Michelle Lynne wrote:

> Thank you all for your assistance is Electric Vest > research. Ithought this would be an easy task but > it > is proving to be more of an enigma than anything. > > I've reviewed all the websites that everyone has > beenkind enough to provide, and I find myself more > confused than I should be. > > So, before I decide to just give my husband a check > for $200 and tell him to choose his own vest, I > wouldd > like to make a little effort to select one myself. > > Please forgive my ignorance, but here are my > questions: > 1) How hot do these vests need to get? Several of > the > recommended ones only go to 84-88 degrees at 10 > minutes. is this their maximum heat - is 121 > degrees > necessary? The ride temperatures will range from 45 > down to 0. > 2) I understand the wattage use will depend > slightly > on the temperature at which the vest is kept, > however, > is there an ideal wattage draw? > > The most popular recommendations I recieved were for > the Aerostitch Kanetsu (unobtainium) - $137 and the > Widder vest (with collar) ~ $200.00. When I read > the > reviews from Rider Magazine, I found myself leaning > towards the Gerbings, which uses 95 watts buts goes > up > to 121 degrees. Second choice was the Widder with > arm > chaps and maybe a collar - 88 degrees and 69 watts. > > I apologize in advance for assking ignorant > questions. > I would like buy the best product possible that > will > allow for the maximum enjoyment of the rider. > > Again, thank you for your replies. > > Michelle > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find a job, post your resume. > http://careers.yahoo.com > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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[Duvall Ed]

Hello Michelle, I do not own an electric vest (but just bought a used electric jacket liner, its on the way - yeah!) but from what I've gathered from my research, the major brands all do a great job. I think your husband would be very happy with any of the brands reviewed in that article: Aerostich, Widder, Gerbings, etc. For the vests with or without collars, it seems like the thick-necked neaderthals prefer no collar vests, as the collars tend to bunch up uncomfortably. The pencil-necked amongst us report good results with the vests with collars, keeping our necks nice and warm. Jacket liner vs. vest: I have heard great things about jacket liners, so I bought a used one. Again, I think he would be thrilled with either one. Keep in mind, if he's the picky type, you might search forever for the perfect vest, and then he may want to return it because it doesn't have some obscure feature he heard about on some obscure motorcycyle email list. So I would say just get him a Gerbings, Widder, whatever, and if its not exactly perfect, he can return or exchange it. Believe me, from the the reports I have read, and from my personal experience, any guy would be THRILLED to be given ANY nice riding gear by their significant other. Ed Duvall, WA ps: Here's my wife's email address, perhaps you would be good enough to counsel her on superior gift etiquette...(only kidding) pss: Nice manners guys. See, we are a decent bunch and do know how to be courteous, use manners, etc.

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Michelle Lynne wrote: > Thank you all for your assistance is Electric Vest > research. Ithought this would be an easy task but it > is proving to be more of an enigma than anything. > > I've reviewed all the websites that everyone has > beenkind enough to provide, and I find myself more > confused than I should be. > > So, before I decide to just give my husband a check > for $200 and tell him to choose his own vest, I wouldd > like to make a little effort to select one myself. > > Please forgive my ignorance, but here are my > questions: > 1) How hot do these vests need to get? Several of the > recommended ones only go to 84-88 degrees at 10 > minutes. is this their maximum heat - is 121 degrees > necessary? The ride temperatures will range from 45 > down to 0. > 2) I understand the wattage use will depend slightly > on the temperature at which the vest is kept, however, > is there an ideal wattage draw? > > The most popular recommendations I recieved were for > the Aerostitch Kanetsu (unobtainium) - $137 and the > Widder vest (with collar) ~ $200.00. When I read the > reviews from Rider Magazine, I found myself leaning > towards the Gerbings, which uses 95 watts buts goes up > to 121 degrees. Second choice was the Widder with arm > chaps and maybe a collar - 88 degrees and 69 watts. > > I apologize in advance for assking ignorant questions. > I would like buy the best product possible that will > allow for the maximum enjoyment of the rider. > > Again, thank you for your replies. > > Michelle > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find a job, post your resume. > http://careers.yahoo.com

[Mike Render]

Tell me about it. My wife gave me a BMW heated vest (and accessory outlet) for my B-day last week. Ed is right. He will be psyched to get one. I love mine. Mike Render '00KLR650

>From: "Duvall Ed" >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Electric Vests >Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 00:27:23 -0000 > >Hello Michelle, > >I do not own an electric vest (but just bought a used electric jacket >liner, its on the way - yeah!) but from what I've gathered from my >research, the major brands all do a great job. I think your husband >would be very happy with any of the brands reviewed in that article: >Aerostich, Widder, Gerbings, etc. > >For the vests with or without collars, it seems like the thick-necked >neaderthals prefer no collar vests, as the collars tend to bunch up >uncomfortably. The pencil-necked amongst us report good results with >the vests with collars, keeping our necks nice and warm. > >Jacket liner vs. vest: I have heard great things about jacket liners, >so I bought a used one. Again, I think he would be thrilled with >either one. > >Keep in mind, if he's the picky type, you might search forever for >the perfect vest, and then he may want to return it because it >doesn't have some obscure feature he heard about on some obscure >motorcycyle email list. So I would say just get him a Gerbings, >Widder, whatever, and if its not exactly perfect, he can return or >exchange it. > >Believe me, from the the reports I have read, and from my personal >experience, any guy would be THRILLED to be given ANY nice riding >gear by their significant other. > >Ed >Duvall, WA > >ps: Here's my wife's email address, perhaps you would be good enough >to counsel her on superior gift etiquette...(only kidding) > >pss: Nice manners guys. See, we are a decent bunch and do know how to >be courteous, use manners, etc. > >--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Michelle Lynne wrote: > > Thank you all for your assistance is Electric Vest > > research. Ithought this would be an easy task but it > > is proving to be more of an enigma than anything. > > > > I've reviewed all the websites that everyone has > > beenkind enough to provide, and I find myself more > > confused than I should be. > > > > So, before I decide to just give my husband a check > > for $200 and tell him to choose his own vest, I wouldd > > like to make a little effort to select one myself. > > > > Please forgive my ignorance, but here are my > > questions: > > 1) How hot do these vests need to get? Several of the > > recommended ones only go to 84-88 degrees at 10 > > minutes. is this their maximum heat - is 121 degrees > > necessary? The ride temperatures will range from 45 > > down to 0. > > 2) I understand the wattage use will depend slightly > > on the temperature at which the vest is kept, however, > > is there an ideal wattage draw? > > > > The most popular recommendations I recieved were for > > the Aerostitch Kanetsu (unobtainium) - $137 and the > > Widder vest (with collar) ~ $200.00. When I read the > > reviews from Rider Magazine, I found myself leaning > > towards the Gerbings, which uses 95 watts buts goes up > > to 121 degrees. Second choice was the Widder with arm > > chaps and maybe a collar - 88 degrees and 69 watts. > > > > I apologize in advance for assking ignorant questions. > > I would like buy the best product possible that will > > allow for the maximum enjoyment of the rider. > > > > Again, thank you for your replies. > > > > Michelle > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Find a job, post your resume. > > http://careers.yahoo.com > > >Checkout Dual Sport News at >http://www.dualsportnews.com >Be part of the Adventure! > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > >Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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[Zachariah Mully]

Michelle- I have the Gerbing Thin Jacket Liner with the heat-troller. The heated collar and arms rock and I've only needed to keep the heat-troller at one-quarter power for it to be very very warm. The Gerbings have a lifetime warranty on the jackets electrics which was a huge selling point for me. I really like mine and would buy another in a heartbeat. Another suggestion would be to check out the high zoot Gr8 Designs Cassiar Electric Vest made by Doug Grosjean. Inside of using wires to heat, it uses an electrically conductive fabric called Gorix which is used in heated car seats. The fabric can be cut without loss of heat and provides more even heat with lower power consumption. I wanted to get one of these originally, but I would have needed to wait at that time as he was just starting production of them. Check them out at http://www.gr8designs.com They are a tad more expensive than a Widder or Gerbing, but I have heard only great things about these vests. Doug is a great guy and a great supporter of the Concours List. Good Luck! ------------------ Zack Banana Republic of Washington, DC KLR650X A5/C2 "Buster" | KLR650A2 | ZG1000A1 | KZ440A2 | 1966 Vespa 125 COG #4664 DCDS #1

> > The most popular recommendations I recieved were for > the Aerostitch Kanetsu (unobtainium) - $137 and the > Widder vest (with collar) ~ $200.00. When I read the > reviews from Rider Magazine, I found myself leaning > towards the Gerbings, which uses 95 watts buts goes up > to 121 degrees. Second choice was the Widder with arm > chaps and maybe a collar - 88 degrees and 69 watts. > > I apologize in advance for assking ignorant questions. > I would like buy the best product possible that will > allow for the maximum enjoyment of the rider. > > Again, thank you for your replies. > > Michelle >

[stuart_phillips@comcast.net]

Hi anyone running an electric vest and/or other electric accessories? Which one? Investigating possibilities to add a connection to the bike, preferably a bit more convenient than just croc clips to the battery. Thanks in advance to all replies! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Bogdan Swider]

I've been running a Widder vest and gloves for years. They come with the hardware to connect to the battery. Bogdan On 9/9/06 8:27 AM, "stuart_phillips@..." wrote:

> Hi anyone running an electric vest and/or other electric accessories? Which > one? > > Investigating possibilities to add a connection to the bike, preferably a bit > more convenient than just croc clips to the battery. > > Thanks in advance to all replies! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >