ortlieb waterproof bags

[Andy Kirby]

I love mine and wouldn't ride the KLR without it but to add to the niggly issues list I find it seems to get rain on the inside of the shield and is difficult to clear when riding in bad weather, something we have had a lot of here in New England this year. I generally ride with the shield cracked open a 1/4 inch as I wear glasses and it stops fogging so maybe that doesn't help. Noise level is ok with me as I usually wear earplugs or earbuds and tunes from my iPod. My 2 cents worth Andy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Saline]

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:13:05 -0000 "macvalk" writes:

> I like the look of these, but can I just sling them over the back of > > my seat like the Kawa stock ones-or do I need a frame on the muffler > > side to keep them away from the heat? > John

<><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> John, I made brackets for my Ortliebs. But I think a person could use them without brackets. I like the brackets I made as they really secure the bags to the bike and I get absolutely no flapping of the bags. I discovered about two weeks after De Tour was complete that my right side bracket was bent into the side cover and was pressing it against the muffler. The bag was strapped to the bracket so it was against the side cover too. No damage to the bag or sidecover. About 5 minutes of bending and the bracket was back where it was supposed to be. I suppose the bending occurred when I was pinned between the bag and a large rock. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT