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DSN_KLR650
Matt Smith

how is this possible?

Post by Matt Smith » Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:37 am

Hahaha I'm guessing you don't ride 610 or I10 much and probably just hit the tollway? :P I Found I10 to be nuts, and 610 even worse when you get down around 6 flags. Oh and do me a huge favour go to los cucos get me a chicken stuffed deep fried avocado flash freeze that sucker and fedex it to me .... I'll show you my tits! Cheers, Matt
On 6/28/06, dwdickersonjr wrote: > > OK, so maybe this isn't so unusual. I work in west Houston, and I'm > sure anyone in the forum from the area will tell you Houston does not > have silk roads! An extensive network of lunar simulations, maybe. > Looks like I'm expecting maybe 7k miles or so before I need new tires, > and then I think I'll be looking for MEFO's to replace the Dunlops. > Besides, I have yet to find a source for Dunlop K750's. I have no > complaints about the Dunlops other than being a bit squirrely in mud. > > Ya'll be dangerous! > > Don > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Don S
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how is this possible?

Post by Don S » Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:00 pm

I think he's carrying the freaking bike! Don matteeanne@... wrote: Are you sure your bike works? --- Bill Watson wrote:
> Wow, the tire-life numbers really do vary. My > riding has been mostly street commuting on Phoenix > freeways (so quiet it's like you're wearing slippers > on carpet!) and I changed out the factory Dunlop > K750 rear at 9,000 miles. It was ready to go at > 8,000 by most people's standards, but I ran it > another thousand. I'm still running the stock K750 > front, it now has 12,500 on it and has a ways to > go... maybe at 15-16K it will be time. > > Clearly I'm not aggressive on tire wear, I'm > averaging 65-67 mpg. I am the mileage weenie of the > group. > > Bill Watson > Phoenix > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger s low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > >
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Bill Watson
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how is this possible?

Post by Bill Watson » Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:17 pm

You mean I'm supposed to RIDE this thing? I thought I was supposed to push it around like a skateboard ! Since new, I've had only 4 tankfulls get less than 60 mpg... I'm disappointed if I hit reserve under 300 mi. Usually happens around 325 mi. BW :) Don S wrote: I think he's carrying the freaking bike! Don matteeanne@... wrote: Are you sure your bike works? --- Bill Watson wrote:
> Wow, the tire-life numbers really do vary. My > riding has been mostly street commuting on Phoenix > freeways (so quiet it's like you're wearing slippers > on carpet!) and I changed out the factory Dunlop > K750 rear at 9,000 miles. It was ready to go at > 8,000 by most people's standards, but I ran it > another thousand. I'm still running the stock K750 > front, it now has 12,500 on it and has a ways to > go... maybe at 15-16K it will be time. > > Clearly I'm not aggressive on tire wear, I'm > averaging 65-67 mpg. I am the mileage weenie of the > group. > > Bill Watson > Phoenix > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger s low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > >
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Don S
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how is this possible?

Post by Don S » Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:24 pm

That is phenomenal mileage. You gotta be shutting the engine off going down hill or something. Maybe you got a small nuke under the seat. I'm on reserve at 350 KMs. That's only 217 miles. And, I thought I was doing good. On the highway, I usually average 60 to 65 mph. Don Bill Watson wrote: You mean I'm supposed to RIDE this thing? I thought I was supposed to push it around like a skateboard ! Since new, I've had only 4 tankfulls get less than 60 mpg... I'm disappointed if I hit reserve under 300 mi. Usually happens around 325 mi. BW :) Don S wrote: I think he's carrying the freaking bike! Don matteeanne@... wrote: Are you sure your bike works? --- Bill Watson wrote:
> Wow, the tire-life numbers really do vary. My > riding has been mostly street commuting on Phoenix > freeways (so quiet it's like you're wearing slippers > on carpet!) and I changed out the factory Dunlop > K750 rear at 9,000 miles. It was ready to go at > 8,000 by most people's standards, but I ran it > another thousand. I'm still running the stock K750 > front, it now has 12,500 on it and has a ways to > go... maybe at 15-16K it will be time. > > Clearly I'm not aggressive on tire wear, I'm > averaging 65-67 mpg. I am the mileage weenie of the > group. > > Bill Watson > Phoenix > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger s low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > >
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revmaaatin
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how is this possible?

Post by revmaaatin » Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:40 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "dwdickersonjr" wrote:
> > Hello all. I see people saying they have 2500 or so miles on the
stock
> Dunlops, and they're worn out. Ok, I have 2800 miles on my 2 month
old
> KLR, I average 120 miles a day. Most of my commute is asphalt, but I > live in the sticks outside Magnolia, Texas, and I have a couple
miles
> of sand, gravel, and mud twixt home and highway - the reason I
bought
> the KLR. My stock Dunlops are hardly worn. As a guesstimate I'd say
I
> should put about 3000 more miles on before they'll be worn to the > point I'll have to replace them. Is my experience that unusual? If
my
> tires are barely wearing, and I'm not a gentle rider, what the heck > are the folks doing that wear out their tires in 2k miles or so? > MX'ing a KLR!? Oh yeah...my chain isn't stretching, either. Started > brand new with 1.5 inches of slack, I'm up to 2 inches. Haven't had
a
> bike with a chain in 25 years but I remember chains being living
hell.
> I expected to have to adjust the chain at least once a week. I do
lube
> it every morning before heading to work, but I'm wondering WTF. How > many miles is the average rider getting from their KLR's? > > Don >
Hmmm. I now see the error of my ways. It is the WD-40 as chain lube (OEM at 17500smiles, still going, going, going; and OEM 43T rear sprocket) that caused my OEM Dunlop to crap out at 3000 miles. That's it, its the WD-40. JR-tell us what tire pressure you are using. I suspect it is higher than the handbook suggests (me to ~36F/R) revmaaatin.

Bill Watson
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how is this possible?

Post by Bill Watson » Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:58 pm

Don, The bike has stock jetting, 16T front sprocket, tire pressure in the 30's, and I do run a hotter thermostat. But most of it is the riding cycle. I'm agressive when I need to be but time my traffic lights, don't sit around and warm up the bike, etc. And I ride an honest 55-65 mph (60-70 indicated) most all of the time. I'm rarely doing 80 mph... but am not going 45 on the freeway either. To be fair, I probably have the "perfect commute" for mileage. The bike is started while coasting down my driveway (this eliminates the first gear 'clunk'), then ridden about a half mile to a street that has the lights timed for 40 mph for 5 miles, then on to the freeway where it is run 55-65 mph for the next 12 miles, then a short city stint to work. If the traffic thickens I move to the carpool lane and still hold 55-65 mph. I time lights in town and rarely even put my foot on the ground on the 19 mile commute. That has to be worth a lot. When I bought an '89 KLR for a buddy, my first tank on his bike returned 65 mpg as well, so I'd argue it's mostly the driver and duty cycle. Speed is a huge player as others have pointed out. Just to see what would happen on my own bike, I burned one entire tank riding like everyone was in my way - left lane, tailgating, 70-85 mph, missing lights in town. That tank returned 49 mpg. If someone richens the carb, lets the bike warm-up while they're still donning riding gear, plays stoplight GT, then I'll bet I could push this down into the high 30's. Bill Don S wrote: That is phenomenal mileage. You gotta be shutting the engine off going down hill or something. Maybe you got a small nuke under the seat. I'm on reserve at 350 KMs. That's only 217 miles. And, I thought I was doing good. On the highway, I usually average 60 to 65 mph. Don Bill Watson wrote: You mean I'm supposed to RIDE this thing? I thought I was supposed to push it around like a skateboard ! Since new, I've had only 4 tankfulls get less than 60 mpg... I'm disappointed if I hit reserve under 300 mi. Usually happens around 325 mi. BW :) Don S wrote: I think he's carrying the freaking bike! Don __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Blake Sobiloff
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how is this possible?

Post by Blake Sobiloff » Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:08 am

On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Bill Watson wrote:
> If someone richens the carb, lets the bike warm-up while they're > still donning riding gear, plays stoplight GT, then I'll bet I > could push this down into the high 30's.
...and have a grin stretchin' from ear to ear! --Evil Blake -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/> http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> San Jose, CA (USA)

Don S
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how is this possible?

Post by Don S » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:24 am

Hi Bill. Something else just came to mind that could have an effect on my mileage. I have two fairly big panniers mounted on the bike that I seldom take off. I would suspect that they would contribute considerable drag. Particularly at higher speeds. If they weren't so handy, I'd take them off for a while to see the difference. On the otherhand, if I needed them and they weren't there, I wouldn't be thinking about gas mileage would I? Don Bill Watson wrote: Don, The bike has stock jetting, 16T front sprocket, tire pressure in the 30's, and I do run a hotter thermostat. But most of it is the riding cycle. I'm agressive when I need to be but time my traffic lights, don't sit around and warm up the bike, etc. And I ride an honest 55-65 mph (60-70 indicated) most all of the time. I'm rarely doing 80 mph... but am not going 45 on the freeway either. To be fair, I probably have the "perfect commute" for mileage. The bike is started while coasting down my driveway (this eliminates the first gear 'clunk'), then ridden about a half mile to a street that has the lights timed for 40 mph for 5 miles, then on to the freeway where it is run 55-65 mph for the next 12 miles, then a short city stint to work. If the traffic thickens I move to the carpool lane and still hold 55-65 mph. I time lights in town and rarely even put my foot on the ground on the 19 mile commute. That has to be worth a lot. When I bought an '89 KLR for a buddy, my first tank on his bike returned 65 mpg as well, so I'd argue it's mostly the driver and duty cycle. Speed is a huge player as others have pointed out. Just to see what would happen on my own bike, I burned one entire tank riding like everyone was in my way - left lane, tailgating, 70-85 mph, missing lights in town. That tank returned 49 mpg. If someone richens the carb, lets the bike warm-up while they're still donning riding gear, plays stoplight GT, then I'll bet I could push this down into the high 30's. Bill Don S wrote: That is phenomenal mileage. You gotta be shutting the engine off going down hill or something. Maybe you got a small nuke under the seat. I'm on reserve at 350 KMs. That's only 217 miles. And, I thought I was doing good. On the highway, I usually average 60 to 65 mph. Don Bill Watson wrote: You mean I'm supposed to RIDE this thing? I thought I was supposed to push it around like a skateboard ! Since new, I've had only 4 tankfulls get less than 60 mpg... I'm disappointed if I hit reserve under 300 mi. Usually happens around 325 mi. BW :) Don S wrote: I think he's carrying the freaking bike! Don __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Bogdan Swider
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how is this possible?

Post by Bogdan Swider » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:47 am

On 6/29/06 10:58 PM, "Bill Watson" wrote:
> Don, > > The bike has stock jetting, 16T front sprocket, tire pressure in the 30's, > and I do run a hotter thermostat.
I'll bet you haven't turned the pilot screw out. True ? Bogdan

Lourd Baltimore
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dc/nova/md tech day tentative dates

Post by Lourd Baltimore » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:16 am

Well then I guess they will have to move the NOAB weekend back a week or two. Just kidding. Well that's why these are working dates. The more responses we get the better we can plan this out for everyone. Thanks, Josh A7 http://www.bntr.com/doofus/KLR650 . --- Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote:
> That cuts into the NOAB weekend in north-central PA, > July 27-30. > Full NOAB into will be posted on the website by > Sunday night. > > Mark > > > At 5:26 AM -0700 6/30/06, Lourd Baltimore wrote: > >How does 29 July or 30 July sound for anyone > interested? >
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