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klr6501995
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Post by klr6501995 » Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:32 pm

oil in a klr gets black quick. the nature of most big singles. I know this from empirical experience and from another make and model owner who brought his bike back to a shop I used to work at between real jobs. I bought his oil with cash from my wallet after he swore the oil wasn't changed and he came back at ~250 miles and paid me back with a $20. tip. (at least he admitted his mistake) I let him observe me drain and refill(as if that was good of him). Freakin $100 bucks would not have been worth being called a liar. Just hopefully he learned that a masters in buisness doensn't make him "ruler of the world compared to oil stained wrench" --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Mumford" wrote:
> > > -----Original Message----- > > to get black on a new bike it must have over 2000 miles on it ie
speedo
> > was most likely disconnected for awhile > > j > > > > > This is not true. The oil I drained out of each of my KLRs at their
first
> 500 mile service was black as Egypt's midnight. > > Thanks > CA Stu > > A 13 > A 14 >

Thor Lancelot Simon
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Post by Thor Lancelot Simon » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:45 pm

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 09:47:13PM -0000, nakedwaterskier wrote:
> > to get black on a new bike it must have over 2000 miles on it ie speedo > was most likely disconnected for awhile
Why do you say that? At the 500 mile oil change, my KLR's oil came out black. Thor

revmaaatin
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Post by revmaaatin » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:49 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "wicklands" wrote:
> > Hi All, > I recently purchased a 2003 KLR that had 1042 miles on the > odometer. I've owned 40 or so motorcycles over the years > so I know better but I bought it on a dark rainy night from > an owner that had a 40 watt light in the garage. Needless > to say I missed several things in my inspection. >
Your oil 'colour' may have as much to do with what brand (what was in it) you are using as to the condition of the clutch. Some brands seem to be darker than others. Folgers coffee comes to mind, taste different to.... Run it a couple hours and do a complete drain and filter change, cut the ends off the filter and see what the paper screen is catching. Do it a couple of times, most likely, hopefully, it will be ok. When you do your oil screen check, be sure to remember to clean the sight gage thoroughly. IRT to the 3.6 qts in the bike, Watch your counter sprocket seal for leaks also, and check your sparkplug for oil fouling. You do know that when you put 2.5 l of oil in the bike, setting level, it will be above the sight gage? A 40watt bulb as an inspection light? Just as bad to buy a XR100, in the dark, -10F with a flashlight after a 300 mile drive, all from a very, nice man. 'Great bike, you are going to love it....etc.' The things we do when pressed for time, and a limited window to operate. AND; Did you know that you can more easily find the 9 broken spokes in the daylight, at home? revmaaatin. who when he found the broken spokes, may have thought of words that were used by Peter the sailor, rather than the words of Peter the Saint.

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Post by revmaaatin » Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:04 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Mike Frey wrote:
> > > Most people who chime in are probably going to say that the KLR
oil
> turns dark quickly. Mine does, it did it immediately after its
first oil
> change and every one since. > > Nothing to worry about, it's a KLR thing. > > ...Even if the speedo was disconnected for a while, as Jeffrey
just
> noted. My speedo cable vibrated off a couple of times so I might
have 50
> or so miles more than what the odometer says. >
This sounds like a list of KLR quirks, where legends are born: and not to mention, you may find that you will be carrying up to 10- 20 lbs of dirt! if you ride very far where there a gumbo soil type. See the archives pics for (GDR) MUD SPUD pic. It was truly, a dark and stormy night, yes, muddy 2. http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/photos/view/32bd? b=2 revmaaatin. who believes his stomach about Gumbo, best served as a soup, rather than be the KLR in the gumbo.

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Post by revmaaatin » Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:16 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Mumford" wrote:
> > > -----Original Message----- > > to get black on a new bike it must have over 2000 miles on it ie
speedo
> > was most likely disconnected for awhile > > j > > > > > This is not true. The oil I drained out of each of my KLRs at
their first
> 500 mile service was black as Egypt's midnight. > > Thanks > CA Stu >
Stu, Now that would be black! I been in Egypt at midnight (there are darker places)...and those 'nuts' drive at high rates of speed (Cairo, to Alexandria) at night without lights! As a KLR-sidebar safety note: Today, I was taking a FAR 135 flight check and the check-airman reminded me that you 'best' night vision is only 20/200 unaided, (without NVG's or supplemental lighting.) Yep, folks it can be dark as an Egyptian midnight, but darker in Montana in the summer! The desert sand will reflect some illume, but not much is reflected in Montana/ South Dakota prairie on a moonless night. I fly it often, and sometimes, it is just to dark at night without any ground reference to fly safely, VFR. revmaaatin. who knows how easy it is to overdrive the KLR headlight. Now w/ 100w of highbeam (thank you Jeff Saline)

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Post by Chris Jennings » Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:20 pm

Well duuhh. If they turn the lights on at night their gas mileage goes down.
On 4/6/06, revmaaatin wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Mumford" > wrote: > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > to get black on a new bike it must have over 2000 miles on it ie > speedo > > > was most likely disconnected for awhile > > > j > > > > > > > > > This is not true. The oil I drained out of each of my KLRs at > their first > > 500 mile service was black as Egypt's midnight. > > > > Thanks > > CA Stu > > > > Stu, > Now that would be black! > I been in Egypt at midnight (there are darker places)...and > those 'nuts' drive at high rates of speed (Cairo, to Alexandria) at > night without lights! > As a KLR-sidebar safety note: > Today, I was taking a FAR 135 flight check and the check-airman > reminded me that you 'best' night vision is only 20/200 unaided, > (without NVG's or supplemental lighting.) Yep, folks it can be > dark as an Egyptian midnight, but darker in Montana in the summer! > The desert sand will reflect some illume, but not much is reflected > in Montana/ South Dakota prairie on a moonless night. I fly it > often, and sometimes, it is just to dark at night without any ground > reference to fly safely, VFR. > > revmaaatin. who knows how easy it is to overdrive the KLR > headlight. Now w/ 100w of highbeam (thank you Jeff Saline) > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Post by revmaaatin » Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:26 pm

OHhhhh. Those clever Eqyptians. I was just to scared at the time to think of that... revmaaatin. who knows that Egytians don't know much about crossing the Red Sea, either. ps. BEST laugh today! good one Chris.... --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Jennings" wrote:
> > Well duuhh. If they turn the lights on at night their gas mileage
goes down.
> > > On 4/6/06, revmaaatin wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Mumford" > > wrote: > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > to get black on a new bike it must have over 2000 miles on
it ie
> > speedo > > > > was most likely disconnected for awhile > > > > j > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not true. The oil I drained out of each of my KLRs at > > their first > > > 500 mile service was black as Egypt's midnight. > > > > > > Thanks > > > CA Stu > > > > > > > Stu, > > Now that would be black! > > I been in Egypt at midnight (there are darker places)...and > > those 'nuts' drive at high rates of speed (Cairo, to Alexandria)
at
> > night without lights! > > As a KLR-sidebar safety note: > > Today, I was taking a FAR 135 flight check and the check-airman > > reminded me that you 'best' night vision is only 20/200 unaided, > > (without NVG's or supplemental lighting.) Yep, folks it can be > > dark as an Egyptian midnight, but darker in Montana in the
summer!
> > The desert sand will reflect some illume, but not much is
reflected
> > in Montana/ South Dakota prairie on a moonless night. I fly it > > often, and sometimes, it is just to dark at night without any
ground
> > reference to fly safely, VFR. > > > > revmaaatin. who knows how easy it is to overdrive the KLR > > headlight. Now w/ 100w of highbeam (thank you Jeff Saline) > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

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Post by Howard Morris » Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:17 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "wannabsmooth1" wrote:
> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Alan L Henderson > wrote: > > > > Stuart Mumford wrote: > > > > > Thanks > > > CA Stu > > > Do you have a website? Then we can complain about you.:) > > Alan Henderson A13 Iowa > > > What makes you think you need to have his website to complain.... :) > > Isn't that part of the ride of life? Isn't there an old saying > something like "when the soldiers quit complaining, it's time to
worry..."
> > Come to SoCal, and meet last year's Moab mystery celeb...... guest > appearance at the San Diego Tech Day, April 8, 2006! > > all the best, > > Mike >
Yea, who the heck was the mystery guest anyway? I looked but did not see. I think I was to busy huggen my pillow that day. He he he was that a rock? ouch

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