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[Blake Sobiloff]

On Mar 28, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Crusader Glen wrote:

> I mentioned on a earlier Post that Mobil's SUV Synthetic formula > was 5w-40 . . well they must of changed it. I was at Wal-Mart > today and I noticed that is been replaced by a 5w-30 version. > Mobil just came out with a 5w-40 Turbo diesel oil. Not sure what > has changed?

Although Mobil doesn't have the spec sheets online yet, rumor has it that the new 5W-40 retains the gasoline engine certifications of the previous version. Basically just a label change. The main reason for the change was that there aren't many new gasoline light trucks and SUVs that spec a 40-weight oil--most of the car-like SUVs require 30- weight--so they wanted to advertise differently and get the right viscosities.

> If you know of a better 5w-40 synthetic oil or any oil in this > viscosity range that out performs Rotella Syn for less please let > me know.

Nope, I don't think there is. -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> San Jose, CA (USA)

[revmaaatin]

Hi Mike, I find that after I start the bike, and then, right after I put in the ear plugs, most of that extraneous noise, just fades away. But, that could just be me operating a N44-32 latitude. revmaaatin. who knows, the more remote the location, the more important is the quality of the earplugs (;>) --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" wrote:

> > Mine is just plain noisy all the time. I really didni't notice any > difference between syn and dino. I like the startup advantage of

the syn

> (5w) so will probably stick with it. A little noise doesn' t

bother me.

> > > >From: "Matt" > >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: klr650: diesel or gas oils ? > >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 05:30:08 -0000 > > > >Twice now I've drained out Rotella 5w-40 with less than 1,000

miles.

> >This last time I actually pulled the side cover to make sure

nothing

> >was broken. With all the racket going on I thought for sure the > >balancer spring was broken. But it wasn't. I refilled with

Rotella

> >15w-40 and things are much quieter. > > > >Matt > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Mike Peplinski]

Same here. I really don't even listen to the engine. Its just there. Of course any new noises jump out at me like a trumpet, but the standard thumper-clatter is just background. My airhead is like that too. In fact if it ain't making noise, the valves are too tight.

>From: "revmaaatin" >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: klr650: diesel or gas oils ? >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:56:30 -0000 > >Hi Mike, >I find that after I start the bike, and then, right after I put in >the ear plugs, most of that extraneous noise, just fades away. But, >that could just be me operating a N44-32 latitude. > >revmaaatin. who knows, the more remote the location, the more >important is the quality of the earplugs (;>) > > >--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" > wrote: > > > > Mine is just plain noisy all the time. I really didni't notice any > > difference between syn and dino. I like the startup advantage of >the syn > > (5w) so will probably stick with it. A little noise doesn' t >bother me. > > > > > > >From: "Matt" > > >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: klr650: diesel or gas oils ? > > >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 05:30:08 -0000 > > > > > >Twice now I've drained out Rotella 5w-40 with less than 1,000 >miles. > > >This last time I actually pulled the side cover to make sure >nothing > > >was broken. With all the racket going on I thought for sure the > > >balancer spring was broken. But it wasn't. I refilled with >Rotella > > >15w-40 and things are much quieter. > > > > > >Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Matt]

It makes good sense to listen to your engine. The noises I was referring to were "new" noises. It's a lot like the oil burning issue. If your engine always burns a bit of oil, say 1/2 qt. every couple thousand miles, but runs fine, there isn't a prolem. But if all the sudden its consuption jumps to a full quart a red flag should go up. Something needs attention. Personally, I've come to the conclusion that I do not like how my engine sounds with a 5w oil. I ride year round in temperatures down to about 25 degrees and I'm sure 15w flows good enough under these conditions. If I left it outside overnight I might think differently, but mine is parked in a garage. I've got 50K on my engine and it likes the cushioning effect of the thicker oil. Maybe a better anology for this discusssion would have been ... boxers or briefs ;>) I will say though, that the best performance mod I've ever made to the KLR, has been a good set of ear plugs. Matt --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" wrote:

> > Same here. I really don't even listen to the engine. Its just

there. Of

> course any new noises jump out at me like a trumpet, but the

standard

> thumper-clatter is just background. My airhead is like that too.

In fact if

> it ain't making noise, the valves are too tight. > > > >From: "revmaaatin" > >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: klr650: diesel or gas oils ? > >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:56:30 -0000 > > > >Hi Mike, > >I find that after I start the bike, and then, right after I put in > >the ear plugs, most of that extraneous noise, just fades away.

But,

> >that could just be me operating a N44-32 latitude. > > > >revmaaatin. who knows, the more remote the location, the more > >important is the quality of the earplugs (;>) > > > > > >--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" > > wrote: > > > > > > Mine is just plain noisy all the time. I really didni't notice

any

> > > difference between syn and dino. I like the startup advantage

of

> >the syn > > > (5w) so will probably stick with it. A little noise doesn' t > >bother me. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Matt" > > > >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: klr650: diesel or gas oils ? > > > >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 05:30:08 -0000 > > > > > > > >Twice now I've drained out Rotella 5w-40 with less than 1,000 > >miles. > > > >This last time I actually pulled the side cover to make sure > >nothing > > > >was broken. With all the racket going on I thought for sure

the

> > > >balancer spring was broken. But it wasn't. I refilled with > >Rotella > > > >15w-40 and things are much quieter. > > > > > > > >Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > > > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at:

www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html

> > > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Jim]

If you're burning diesel engine oil (higher sulphated ash content and more engine deposits when burned) in your KLR, you might want to regularly use a fuel system cleaner and deposit remover additive. Jim A17

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Matt" wrote: > > It makes good sense to listen to your engine. The noises I was > referring to were "new" noises. It's a lot like the oil burning > issue. If your engine always burns a bit of oil, say 1/2 qt. every > couple thousand miles, but runs fine, there isn't a prolem. But if > all the sudden its consuption jumps to a full quart a red flag > should go up. Something needs attention. Personally, I've come to > the conclusion that I do not like how my engine sounds with a 5w > oil. I ride year round in temperatures down to about 25 degrees and > I'm sure 15w flows good enough under these conditions. If I left it > outside overnight I might think differently, but mine is parked in a > garage. I've got 50K on my engine and it likes the cushioning effect > of the thicker oil. Maybe a better anology for this discusssion > would have been ... boxers or briefs ;>) > > I will say though, that the best performance mod I've ever made to > the KLR, has been a good set of ear plugs. > > Matt > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" > wrote: > > > > Same here. I really don't even listen to the engine. Its just > there. Of > > course any new noises jump out at me like a trumpet, but the > standard > > thumper-clatter is just background. My airhead is like that too. > In fact if > > it ain't making noise, the valves are too tight. > > > > > > >From: "revmaaatin" > > >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: klr650: diesel or gas oils ? > > >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:56:30 -0000 > > > > > >Hi Mike, > > >I find that after I start the bike, and then, right after I put in > > >the ear plugs, most of that extraneous noise, just fades away. > But, > > >that could just be me operating a N44-32 latitude. > > > > > >revmaaatin. who knows, the more remote the location, the more > > >important is the quality of the earplugs (;>) > > > > > > > > >--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Mine is just plain noisy all the time. I really didni't notice > any > > > > difference between syn and dino. I like the startup advantage > of > > >the syn > > > > (5w) so will probably stick with it. A little noise doesn' t > > >bother me. > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Matt" > > > > >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > > >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: klr650: diesel or gas oils ? > > > > >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 05:30:08 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >Twice now I've drained out Rotella 5w-40 with less than 1,000 > > >miles. > > > > >This last time I actually pulled the side cover to make sure > > >nothing > > > > >was broken. With all the racket going on I thought for sure > the > > > > >balancer spring was broken. But it wasn't. I refilled with > > >Rotella > > > > >15w-40 and things are much quieter. > > > > > > > > > >Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > > > > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > > > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[GMac999]

Synthetic oils with friction modifiers can cause the clutch to slip. Oil designed for diesels, Motorcycles, ATV's don't have these. Do a search on the group archives and you'll get more than you really wanted to know about oil. One thing to remember, change it regularly. GregM '95 A9 -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Romar Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:42 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR ------> The "New Rotella T" (with unsurpassed viscosity control !!!) Mike Peplinski wrote:

> I saw that "Castrella" stuff at the 'Zone. Castrol products are

usually pretty good. I may give this one a try on the next go-round. My KLR seems to gear clash a bit more with synthetic.

>

My Response: You all are talking about using synthetic oil in the KLR650. I thought my owners manual said to not use synthetic oil because it ruins the wet clutch. What am I missing? Thanks. Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com