dremeling to see the idle screw

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

I agree with what you said about worn parts being the likely problem. But a test with regular oil couldn't hurt, and you probably need an oil change anyhow. Jeff A20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Analog Aardvark]

Hey guy-- Sorry I'm a bit late on the response, been out of touch over the holiday. Before you order any parts, disconnect both ends of the clutch cable (at the engine and at the grip) and pull the inner cable back and forth through the sleeve by hand. It should have nearly NO resistance. If it is at all hard to pull, lube the hell out of it and keep working it by hand until it slides nicely. If it won't ever slide nicely, buy a new cable and try that. I tore out the clutch on a honda in exactly those circumstances only to discover the discs had plenty of life and it was the cable binding in the sleeve... what feels a little "stiff" through the leverage of the clutch lever translates to a LOT of resistance within the cable... If you don't have one, get one of those cable lubers that fit around the end of the cable and forces aerosol lube through, too. I'd been using the drip and let sit method and was blown away by how much better the force-feed thing works. Keep us in the loop. -Luke

> Hi, I just bought a 1988 KLR650 with a large 94000km (~59000mi) on it > to replace my 250 that was stolen. When riding I have noticed that the > clutch seems to be slipping a bit. By that I mean that if you roll on > while riding at moderate speed, the revs rise fairly quickly a few > hundred rpm and then settle back down and it accelerates. Kind of > like if you were riding the clutch a bit. > > The clutch cable feel quite stiff and I lubed it last night and it > seems to have loostened a bit (althoguh still much stiffer than the > 250). The lever had freeplay of a little bit, but I gave it a bit > more just to be sure but it doesn't seem to have changed. > > Does this sort of behavior sound like the clutch plates are going? I > don't know the full history of the bike and any work that may have > been done (althoguh I think the doohicky was done). Would it be worth > changing the oil to see if that helps first, or maybe even the cable? > > If it is the plates I am willing to give changing them a shot myself > if needed and appart from the plates is there anything needed? > > So far have only done a further 200km or so but it was very enjoyable. > > On a more general note, is there anything I should be keeping an eye > on given that it has done a fair number of km? > > Cheers, > Guy from Melbourne, Australia. >

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[David Farrell]

This is exactly what happened to me. It felt like the clutch was slipping only to find out the cable wasn't moving back and forth freely. A new cable made such a tremendous difference and made the clutch so much easier to pull it was almost like a new bike. David Farrell --- Analog Aardvark wrote:

> Hey guy-- > Sorry I'm a bit late on the response, been out of > touch over the holiday. > Before you order any parts, disconnect both ends > of the clutch cable (at the engine and at the grip) > and pull the inner cable back and forth through the > sleeve by hand. It should have nearly NO resistance. > If it is at all hard to pull, lube the hell out of > it and keep working it by hand until it slides > nicely. If it won't ever slide nicely, buy a new > cable and try that. I tore out the clutch on a > honda in exactly those circumstances only to > discover the discs had plenty of life and it was the > cable binding in the sleeve... what feels a little > "stiff" through the leverage of the clutch lever > translates to a LOT of resistance within the > cable... If you don't have one, get one of those > cable lubers that fit around the end of the cable > and forces aerosol lube through, too. I'd been > using the drip and let sit method and was blown away > by how much better the force-feed thing works. > > Keep us in the loop. > > -Luke > > > > Hi, I just bought a 1988 KLR650 with a large > 94000km (~59000mi) on it > > to replace my 250 that was stolen. When riding I > have noticed that the > > clutch seems to be slipping a bit. By that I mean > that if you roll on > > while riding at moderate speed, the revs rise > fairly quickly a few > > hundred rpm and then settle back down and it > accelerates. Kind of > > like if you were riding the clutch a bit. > > > > The clutch cable feel quite stiff and I lubed it > last night and it > > seems to have loostened a bit (althoguh still much > stiffer than the > > 250). The lever had freeplay of a little bit, but > I gave it a bit > > more just to be sure but it doesn't seem to have > changed. > > > > Does this sort of behavior sound like the clutch > plates are going? I > > don't know the full history of the bike and any > work that may have > > been done (althoguh I think the doohicky was > done). Would it be worth > > changing the oil to see if that helps first, or > maybe even the cable? > > > > If it is the plates I am willing to give changing > them a shot myself > > if needed and appart from the plates is there > anything needed? > > > > So far have only done a further 200km or so but it > was very enjoyable. > > > > On a more general note, is there anything I should > be keeping an eye > > on given that it has done a fair number of km? > > > > Cheers, > > Guy from Melbourne, Australia. > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[Denis Dimick]

The screw is not too far under the cover, I just used a very small drill bit and was very careful not to hit the screw when the bit broke through the hole. Just take your time and have fun. If you want to really adjust the screw at a later date, then Fred has an after-market screw that you may want to buy. It allows you to make the adjustment(s) you want with out the requirement of any tools. HtH, Denis

On 12/27/05, Rodney Copeland wrote: > > Pretty funny Jud! > Why not shoot it off with his pistolly! > HHHAAAARRRRR!!!!! > Bolt cutters! > HHHAAAAARRRRR!!! > Rod,,,,,lubbin deez conetery > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "cav_wolverine" > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, I was wondering how far the head of the idle screw is from the > > > bottom of the hole. I want to access the screw without taking the > > > carb off the bike. I want to just dremel away the material until > the > > > cap is all gone but I want to know how much is safe to dremel. > Any > > > estimate of the distance? thanks > > > > Why waste time with a dremel? A bolt cutter should clear away the > boss nicely, expose the > > adjustment screw to view, and be no worse a bodge. Sheesh... > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[clint lee jin yew]

what kind of engine oil are you running there. no i do not want to start an oil thread, but i did have this same problem when i ran bp visco 3000 ( some gave me for free ). it slipped everywhere after a few hundred km. i just chnaged the oil and got better results. clint --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "guvenor_sier" wrote:

> > Hi, I just bought a 1988 KLR650 with a large 94000km (~59000mi) on

it

> to replace my 250 that was stolen. When riding I have noticed that

the

> clutch seems to be slipping a bit. By that I mean that if you

roll on

> while riding at moderate speed, the revs rise fairly quickly a few > hundred rpm and then settle back down and it accelerates. Kind of > like if you were riding the clutch a bit. > > The clutch cable feel quite stiff and I lubed it last night and it > seems to have loostened a bit (althoguh still much stiffer than the > 250). The lever had freeplay of a little bit, but I gave it a bit > more just to be sure but it doesn't seem to have changed. > > Does this sort of behavior sound like the clutch plates are going?

I

> don't know the full history of the bike and any work that may have > been done (althoguh I think the doohicky was done). Would it be

worth

> changing the oil to see if that helps first, or maybe even the

cable?

> > If it is the plates I am willing to give changing them a shot

myself

> if needed and appart from the plates is there anything needed? > > So far have only done a further 200km or so but it was very

enjoyable.

> > On a more general note, is there anything I should be keeping an

eye

> on given that it has done a fair number of km? > > Cheers, > Guy from Melbourne, Australia. >