I make it a point to carry a squirt bottle of honey in a side pouch. If I ever get attacked by a bear, I plan to squirt it on my wife and run like hell. don> > I use a similar technique! Whenever a large bear comes close, I urinate on > everything! Do you think it helps? (VBG)
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Eric L. Green
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On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Don Bittle wrote:
Of course, in that case the bear is likely to see you as prey, and decide to chase *you* while ignoring your wife. From the Yosemite guide: "DO NOT feed, taunt, or tease the bears. Bears are stronger than you. (If you'd like to see how strong they are, take a look in the Valley Visitor Center.) If you feed, taunt, or tease them, they may attack you. There has never been an unprovoked attack by a black bear in Yosemite. If a bear approaches, make noise, wave your arms, and throw SMALL stones at the bear. (The point of throwing objects at the bear is to scare it away-- not to injure it!) Do not chase the bear. Do not run from the bear. Bears run faster than you and climb trees better and faster than you. "If a bear approaches you because you have food and is not frightened by the above measures, leave the food and walk away. Do not argue with the bear. NEVER try to retrieve anything from a bear." -E>> I use a similar technique! Whenever a large bear comes close, I urinate on >> everything! Do you think it helps? (VBG) > > I make it a point to carry a squirt bottle of honey in a side pouch. If I > ever get attacked by a bear, I plan to squirt it on my wife and run like > hell.
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Will playing "Dumb" work? I have that one down pat.
West
----- Original Message ----- From: Eric L. Green Snip... So for most of us, playing dead is NOT the thing to do if we run into a bear. -E [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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matteeanne@yahoo.com
bear country?
I am still planning my Arctic trip in 07'. I have felt
I need to bypass Canada, as they will not allow me to
pass through with my hand gun, and I really cannot
imagine camping in Alaska without a big gun.
The ferry ride to bypass Canada is hella expensive,
and I started wondering, What would happen if you
sprayed a bear down with Pepper Spray and tazered him?
I dont relish the thought of letting a Bear get close
enough to either Tazer or Spray, but if it would in
fact stop the Bear?
Any thoughts/experiences?
--- WEST HOVLAND wrote:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html> Will playing "Dumb" work? I have that one down pat. > > West > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eric L. Green > > Snip... > > So for most of us, playing dead is NOT the thing > to do if we run > into a bear. > > -E > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >
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What would happen if you
I understand that the accepted method is to use a special bear spray that isn't the same as human pepper spray. I ordered mine on line but haven't had the need for it yet-thank goodness. don> sprayed a bear down with Pepper Spray and tazered him?
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On Sun, 10 Jul 2005, WEST HOVLAND wrote:
. The goal is to
let blackie know that you're the biggest baddest predator on this planet,
in hopes that he will then refrain from making you his meal. The very
*last* thing you want to do is something that would tell blackie, "oh boy,
LUNCH! Long pig!".
All of which is inapplicable to grizzlies, of course, since a grizzly that
attacks you is just telling you "Get out of *my* territory, you loser!"
and will lose interest (hopefully) after he "teaches you a lesson". But
most of us don't live where there are grizzlies. A black bear that attacks
you is intent up on making you his dinner. You can't out-run a bear, and
you can't out-climb a bear, so convincing him otherwise is the task if you
run into a black bear who decides that eating your food isn't enough, he
wants to eat *you*.
Note that bear attacks are *very* rare, so they're not something to obsess
about either way. Just do the common sense things (store food and
toothpaste well away from your tent in a bear canister when in bear
country, etc.), and don't worry about it. Just don't do the wrong thing
(run) if you encounter a black bear, because, like with a cat, a bear
things anything running from it is one thing and one thing only: "Lunch!".
-E
If playing dumb means being loud, obnoxious, and intimidating, you have it down pat as to what to do if you run into a black bear> Will playing "Dumb" work? I have that one down pat.
. The goal is to
let blackie know that you're the biggest baddest predator on this planet,
in hopes that he will then refrain from making you his meal. The very
*last* thing you want to do is something that would tell blackie, "oh boy,
LUNCH! Long pig!".
All of which is inapplicable to grizzlies, of course, since a grizzly that
attacks you is just telling you "Get out of *my* territory, you loser!"
and will lose interest (hopefully) after he "teaches you a lesson". But
most of us don't live where there are grizzlies. A black bear that attacks
you is intent up on making you his dinner. You can't out-run a bear, and
you can't out-climb a bear, so convincing him otherwise is the task if you
run into a black bear who decides that eating your food isn't enough, he
wants to eat *you*.
Note that bear attacks are *very* rare, so they're not something to obsess
about either way. Just do the common sense things (store food and
toothpaste well away from your tent in a bear canister when in bear
country, etc.), and don't worry about it. Just don't do the wrong thing
(run) if you encounter a black bear, because, like with a cat, a bear
things anything running from it is one thing and one thing only: "Lunch!".
-E
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eric L. Green > So for most of us, playing dead is NOT the thing to do if we run > into a bear.
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 matteeanne@... wrote:
Same thing that happens if you do it to a human. He becomes very, very angry and wants to kick your ****. *NOT* something you want to do to a grizzly bear. Also tazer guns are regulated in most states and what's available to the public won't penetrate a bear's fur to stick into its hide. Note that there is a big canister of pepper spray sold by camping goods store near bear country for dealing with black bears, it's usually called "bear spray". In a few cases it's been useful. Usually it's not, because by the time a bear is close enough to you to get a full dose of this stuff in the face (the only place that counts), you're already on your way to being lunch and don't have time to deploy it (bears are *FAST*). And you can't carry pepper spray into Canada either. Best to exercise prevention instead. As for the notion of avoiding Canada because you don't feel secure without carrying a portable arsenal with you -- note that it is perfectly legal to carry valid hunting weapons into Canada. You must declare them at the border and pay a $50 fee, but if you're in transit to Alaska that's pretty much it. Handguns are verbotten, of course, but really, any handgun big enough to take out a grizzly bear is pretty much unusable by anybody other than Ah-nohld anyhow. -E> and I started wondering, What would happen if you > sprayed a bear down with Pepper Spray and tazered him?
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In Canada you can buy and carry something referred to as a "bear-banger". I use them myself, when in the back country and they are very effective. As a matter of fact, most forestry workers and loggers usually carry them.
It is the size of a pen with a spring and a stiker in them and you attack a small explosive cartridge to the end of it, which can be set off with that spring and striker. It will then be propelled a couple of hundred feet and then go off like a flare gun with a pretty good bang.
The trick is to scare the bear away and not to wound it, as you would with a hand gun. That just makes the bear mad at you, and that is not a good thing.
By the time you can use bear spray, it is usually too late, although it is not a bad thing to have with you for other animals, even the 2-legged ones.
Gorm L., BC, Canada
matteeanne@... wrote:
I am still planning my Arctic trip in 07'. I have felt
I need to bypass Canada, as they will not allow me to
pass through with my hand gun, and I really cannot
imagine camping in Alaska without a big gun.
The ferry ride to bypass Canada is hella expensive,
and I started wondering, What would happen if you
sprayed a bear down with Pepper Spray and tazered him?
I dont relish the thought of letting a Bear get close
enough to either Tazer or Spray, but if it would in
fact stop the Bear?
Any thoughts/experiences?
--- WEST HOVLAND wrote:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html> Will playing "Dumb" work? I have that one down pat. > > West > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eric L. Green > > Snip... > > So for most of us, playing dead is NOT the thing > to do if we run > into a bear. > > -E > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >
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bear country?
You sure are right about not wanting to wound a bear. A small pump
shotgun in a side sling is just the ticket. Put some good slug
ammunition in that puppy and feel safe. Trust me, you won't "wound"
the bear and you will be much more assured of a safe trip.
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wrote:
banger". I use them myself, when in the back country and they are very effective. As a matter of fact, most forestry workers and loggers usually carry them.> In Canada you can buy and carry something referred to as a "bear-
attack a small explosive cartridge to the end of it, which can be set off with that spring and striker. It will then be propelled a couple of hundred feet and then go off like a flare gun with a pretty good bang.> It is the size of a pen with a spring and a stiker in them and you
would with a hand gun. That just makes the bear mad at you, and that is not a good thing.> The trick is to scare the bear away and not to wound it, as you
although it is not a bad thing to have with you for other animals, even the 2-legged ones.> By the time you can use bear spray, it is usually too late,
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html> > Gorm L., BC, Canada > > matteeanne@y... wrote: > I am still planning my Arctic trip in 07'. I have felt > I need to bypass Canada, as they will not allow me to > pass through with my hand gun, and I really cannot > imagine camping in Alaska without a big gun. > The ferry ride to bypass Canada is hella expensive, > and I started wondering, What would happen if you > sprayed a bear down with Pepper Spray and tazered him? > I dont relish the thought of letting a Bear get close > enough to either Tazer or Spray, but if it would in > fact stop the Bear? > Any thoughts/experiences? > > --- WEST HOVLAND wrote: > > > Will playing "Dumb" work? I have that one down pat. > > > > West > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Eric L. Green > > > > Snip... > > > > So for most of us, playing dead is NOT the thing > > to do if we run > > into a bear. > > > > -E > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > Archive Quicksearch at:
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clearprop5
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bear country?
I wrote this thinking a shotgun was OK to take across the border. Is
this prohibited as well?
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wrote:
won't "wound"> > You sure are right about not wanting to wound a bear. A small pump > shotgun in a side sling is just the ticket. Put some good slug > ammunition in that puppy and feel safe. Trust me, you
you> the bear and you will be much more assured of a safe trip. > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Gorm Larsen > wrote: > > In Canada you can buy and carry something referred to as a "bear- > banger". I use them myself, when in the back country and they are > very effective. As a matter of fact, most forestry workers and > loggers usually carry them. > > It is the size of a pen with a spring and a stiker in them and
that> attack a small explosive cartridge to the end of it, which can be > set off with that spring and striker. It will then be propelled a > couple of hundred feet and then go off like a flare gun with a > pretty good bang. > > The trick is to scare the bear away and not to wound it, as you > would with a hand gun. That just makes the bear mad at you, and
> is not a good thing. > > By the time you can use bear spray, it is usually too late, > although it is not a bad thing to have with you for other animals, > even the 2-legged ones. > > > > Gorm L., BC, Canada > > > > matteeanne@y... wrote: > > I am still planning my Arctic trip in 07'. I have felt > > I need to bypass Canada, as they will not allow me to > > pass through with my hand gun, and I really cannot > > imagine camping in Alaska without a big gun. > > The ferry ride to bypass Canada is hella expensive, > > and I started wondering, What would happen if you > > sprayed a bear down with Pepper Spray and tazered him? > > I dont relish the thought of letting a Bear get close > > enough to either Tazer or Spray, but if it would in > > fact stop the Bear? > > Any thoughts/experiences? > > > > --- WEST HOVLAND wrote: > > > > > Will playing "Dumb" work? I have that one down pat. > > > > > > West > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Eric L. Green > > > > > > Snip... > > > > > > So for most of us, playing dead is NOT the thing > > > to do if we run > > > into a bear. > > > > > > -E > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > > www.dualsportnews.com > > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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