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[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

ROFLMFAO --- Kyle wrote:

> Apples and Oranges....can't possible, you can't > seriously with hold > that argument. > > What will you say when someone dies of food > poising...car > wreck...plane crash....do we need to go on. > > Catagoric condemnation of instruments of death is > plainly impractical. > This is the mindset of an ill-influenced 12year old > liberal raised by > lesbian hippies malnurished from lack of protiens. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, don cain > wrote: > > Sorry, > > The base argument is 'Pit bulls cause death - get > rid of Pitbulls' vs. > > 'Guns cause death - get rid of guns.' Same thing, > less pitbulls - > > less innocent death = less guns - less innocent > death..... Who cares > > if the killing device can think or not - it causes > death...... > > > > -don > > > > On 5/12/05, Eric L. Green wrote: > > > On Thu, 12 May 2005, don cain wrote: > > > > Hmmm, > > > > Replace 'pit bull' with 'gun.' and you have > the same argument for > > > > getting rid of all guns also.... > > > > > > Except guns don't have brains, and can't kill > anybody unless a man is > > > pulling the trigger. Whereas a pit bull has a > brain, and if it decides > > > that something is prey, can kill that something > without > intervention of a > > > human. > > > > > > Remember, guns don't kill people. People kill > people. A gun > doesn't pull > > > its own trigger. A pit bull does. > > > > > > -E > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > --My greatest fear in life is not death, but > waking up one morning > > ordinary and predictable. > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[Gerald Sdoutz]

OK, I was trying really hard to stay out of this debate, but I just got to throw in my two cents here. Yup, people kill people, they just use guns to do it. Pit bulls kill people, but why? Do they think we are prey? If so why don't they all kill people? Why would a properly fed properly trained dog, be it pit bull or any other breed, have to kill a person for prey, ie. food, unless its owner has either neglected it, mistreated it, or trained it too? Even if they didn't, and the dog just turned out to be a killing machine, shouldn't you as the owner know what it is and act responsibly, ie. don't set it on the neighbours, don't let it run around without a leash, or muzzle, or best yet, if the dog is that dangerous have it euthanized. In other words, I think, its just another example of people killing people, they just left their gun at home and got the dog to do it. Gerald who has owned a pit bull (half breed) for the past 7 years, best dog I ever owned. -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sent: May 12, 2005 7:26 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Re: NKLR Denver Seizing and Killing your Pit Bulls Jesus H. Chriminy! For once I agree with the Greenster! --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Eric L. Green" wrote:

> On Thu, 12 May 2005, don cain wrote: > > Hmmm, > > Replace 'pit bull' with 'gun.' and you have the same argument for > > getting rid of all guns also.... > > Except guns don't have brains, and can't kill anybody unless a man is > pulling the trigger. Whereas a pit bull has a brain, and if it decides > that something is prey, can kill that something without intervention

of a

> human. > > Remember, guns don't kill people. People kill people. A gun doesn't

pull

> its own trigger. A pit bull does. > > -E

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[Michael Clark]

I agree guns don't kill people, people kill people. I am a law enforcement officer in Natural Resources. My primary job is to check thousands of law abiding hunters who carry various types of firearms. On the other hand, I also deal with individuals who spend their lives breaking the law. These are the ones I am always concerned with...not the law abiding, gun owner. Remember this, criminals are criminals and do not abide by laws. It is ignorant to think firearms could ever be totally abolished. Many firearms are produced in other countries...it's interesting how many illegal narcotics come from other countries. What makes anyone think that criminals would abide by a law to illegally carry a firearm? Remember they are criminals and don't abide by laws. What would be better? To keep criminals wondering if the next subject is armed or to know that he is unarmed. Just something to think about. I do respect your opinion. However, I feel you may have been misguided by skewed statistics and the media. MT don cain wrote: Sorry, The base argument is 'Pit bulls cause death - get rid of Pitbulls' vs. 'Guns cause death - get rid of guns.' Same thing, less pitbulls - less innocent death = less guns - less innocent death..... Who cares if the killing device can think or not - it causes death...... -don

On 5/12/05, Eric L. Green wrote: > On Thu, 12 May 2005, don cain wrote: > > Hmmm, > > Replace 'pit bull' with 'gun.' and you have the same argument for > > getting rid of all guns also.... > > Except guns don't have brains, and can't kill anybody unless a man is > pulling the trigger. Whereas a pit bull has a brain, and if it decides > that something is prey, can kill that something without intervention of a > human. > > Remember, guns don't kill people. People kill people. A gun doesn't pull > its own trigger. A pit bull does. > > -E > > -- --My greatest fear in life is not death, but waking up one morning ordinary and predictable. Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Eric L. Green]

On Thu, 12 May 2005, Gerald Sdoutz wrote:

> In other words, I think, its just another example of people killing people, > they just left their gun at home and got the dog to do it.

The problem is that everybody knows that if they point their gun at a person and pull the trigger, bad things happen to the person the gun is pointing at. Most of the pit bull maulings and deaths that I've seen mentioned in the media over the years happened out of the blue. "I don't understand what happened, Fang is just so gentle with our children, why did he decide that our neighbor's toddler was an appetizer?!" I.e., it happens unexpectedly, because DOGS ARE NOT MACHINES. Unlike guns, they have a brain and their own set of hard-wired instincts that we as dog owners only imperfectly understand. Thus while most people know what sets off a gun (you pull the trigger!), few people seem to know what sets off pit bulls. I'm not saying that pit bulls should be banned. I'm saying that no matter how gentle Fang seems, he is a loaded weapon with a hair trigger that is easy to accidentally set off, and he should be treated accordingly. Some pit bull owners, alas, refuse to admit this, and thus we end up with laws like the Denver pit bull ban, which happened after two people were killed and several others severely injured by pit bulls that, their owners maintained, "were perfectly gentle with our children, we don't know what set them off!" When pit bull owners refuse to treat their pit bull like a loaded weapon, well... pit bulls aren't needed for modern society to functin (unlike the automobile) and aren't protected by the Constitution (unlike guns), so if it comes down to a choice of protecting dogs or protecting people from irresponsible dog owners, the majority will come down on the side of people every time. -E

[Kyle]

Green! Said I agreed with you once, but damn, no need to belabor the point. You don't win an argument by having the most responses. You just don't win, period. Yet somehow, I agree with you. Something bad is going to happen this week, isn't it....Friday the 13th! amazed again! --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Eric L. Green" wrote:

> On Thu, 12 May 2005, Gerald Sdoutz wrote: > > In other words, I think, its just another example of people

killing people,

> > they just left their gun at home and got the dog to do it. > > The problem is that everybody knows that if they point their gun at a > person and pull the trigger, bad things happen to the person the gun is > pointing at. Most of the pit bull maulings and deaths that I've seen > mentioned in the media over the years happened out of the blue. "I

don't

> understand what happened, Fang is just so gentle with our children, why > did he decide that our neighbor's toddler was an appetizer?!" I.e., it > happens unexpectedly, because DOGS ARE NOT MACHINES. Unlike guns, they > have a brain and their own set of hard-wired instincts that we as dog > owners only imperfectly understand. Thus while most people know what

sets

> off a gun (you pull the trigger!), few people seem to know what sets

off

> pit bulls. > > I'm not saying that pit bulls should be banned. I'm saying that no

matter

> how gentle Fang seems, he is a loaded weapon with a hair trigger

that is

> easy to accidentally set off, and he should be treated accordingly.

Some

> pit bull owners, alas, refuse to admit this, and thus we end up with

laws

> like the Denver pit bull ban, which happened after two people were

killed

> and several others severely injured by pit bulls that, their owners > maintained, "were perfectly gentle with our children, we don't know

what

> set them off!" When pit bull owners refuse to treat their pit bull

like a

> loaded weapon, well... pit bulls aren't needed for modern society to > functin (unlike the automobile) and aren't protected by the

Constitution

> (unlike guns), so if it comes down to a choice of protecting dogs or > protecting people from irresponsible dog owners, the majority will come > down on the side of people every time. > > -E

[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

Actually, my Golden Retriever, Buckley, all 100 lb's of him can be the meanest dog you have ever seen in your life. He has bit everyone in my household, some of us badly. Why? He is insane. He broke a tooth, a big one in the back, and it was broke for the first few years of his life, we never knew. It drove him mad. We love our dogs (the kids and I) as much as we love each other. Buckly is the sweetest, most loving dog in the world, but some things, like food and other dogs make him insane. We did not train him that way, he is simply insane. I know, I am a bad person for owning him, but I truly love him, and, the real kicker, my kids love him, though he has bit them all. If I got rid of him they would never forgive me. And when he aint a nut case, he is just so gentle and sweet. Point is, any dog can bite the shit out of you, give the right circumstance, bad news is Pit Bulls, and ROtts both have been bread so long with bad intention, it's in their blood, same as a retreiver retrieves without question, it in-bread --- Gerald Sdoutz wrote:

> OK, I was trying really hard to stay out of this > debate, but I just got to > throw in my two cents here. > > Yup, people kill people, they just use guns to do > it. > > Pit bulls kill people, but why? Do they think we > are prey? If so why don't > they all kill people? Why would a properly fed > properly trained dog, be it > pit bull or any other breed, have to kill a person > for prey, ie. food, > unless its owner has either neglected it, mistreated > it, or trained it too? > Even if they didn't, and the dog just turned out to > be a killing machine, > shouldn't you as the owner know what it is and act > responsibly, ie. don't > set it on the neighbours, don't let it run around > without a leash, or > muzzle, or best yet, if the dog is that dangerous > have it euthanized. > > In other words, I think, its just another example of > people killing people, > they just left their gun at home and got the dog to > do it. > > Gerald who has owned a pit bull (half breed) for the > past 7 years, best dog > I ever owned. > > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Kyle > Sent: May 12, 2005 7:26 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Re: NKLR Denver Seizing > and Killing your Pit Bulls > > Jesus H. Chriminy! For once I agree with the > Greenster! > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Eric L. Green" > > wrote: > > On Thu, 12 May 2005, don cain wrote: > > > Hmmm, > > > Replace 'pit bull' with 'gun.' and you have the > same argument for > > > getting rid of all guns also.... > > > > Except guns don't have brains, and can't kill > anybody unless a man is > > pulling the trigger. Whereas a pit bull has a > brain, and if it decides > > that something is prey, can kill that something > without intervention > of a > > human. > > > > Remember, guns don't kill people. People kill > people. A gun doesn't > pull > > its own trigger. A pit bull does. > > > > -E > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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Hey, Looking for chief - Got a fire to put out! Looking for the secretary to type it - will hold.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > Actually, my Golden Retriever, Buckley, all 100 lb's > of him can be the meanest dog you have ever seen in > your life. He has bit everyone in my household, some > of us badly. Why? He is insane. He broke a tooth, a > big one in the back, and it was broke for the first > few years of his life, we never knew. It drove him > mad. We love our dogs (the kids and I) as much as we > love each other. Buckly is the sweetest, most loving > dog in the world, but some things, like food and other > dogs make him insane. We did not train him that way, > he is simply insane. > I know, I am a bad person for owning him, but I truly > love him, and, the real kicker, my kids love him, > though he has bit them all. If I got rid of him they > would never forgive me. And when he aint a nut case, > he is just so gentle and sweet. Point is, any dog can > bite the shit out of you, give the right circumstance, > bad news is Pit Bulls, and ROtts both have been bread > so long with bad intention, it's in their blood, same > as a retreiver retrieves without question, it in-bread > --- Gerald Sdoutz wrote: > > OK, I was trying really hard to stay out of this > > debate, but I just got to > > throw in my two cents here. > > > > Yup, people kill people, they just use guns to do > > it. > > > > Pit bulls kill people, but why? Do they think we > > are prey? If so why don't > > they all kill people? Why would a properly fed > > properly trained dog, be it > > pit bull or any other breed, have to kill a person > > for prey, ie. food, > > unless its owner has either neglected it, mistreated > > it, or trained it too? > > Even if they didn't, and the dog just turned out to > > be a killing machine, > > shouldn't you as the owner know what it is and act > > responsibly, ie. don't > > set it on the neighbours, don't let it run around > > without a leash, or > > muzzle, or best yet, if the dog is that dangerous > > have it euthanized. > > > > In other words, I think, its just another example of > > people killing people, > > they just left their gun at home and got the dog to > > do it. > > > > Gerald who has owned a pit bull (half breed) for the > > past 7 years, best dog > > I ever owned. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > > Behalf Of Kyle > > Sent: May 12, 2005 7:26 PM > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Re: NKLR Denver Seizing > > and Killing your Pit Bulls > > > > Jesus H. Chriminy! For once I agree with the > > Greenster! > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Eric L. Green" > > > > wrote: > > > On Thu, 12 May 2005, don cain wrote: > > > > Hmmm, > > > > Replace 'pit bull' with 'gun.' and you have the > > same argument for > > > > getting rid of all guns also.... > > > > > > Except guns don't have brains, and can't kill > > anybody unless a man is > > > pulling the trigger. Whereas a pit bull has a > > brain, and if it decides > > > that something is prey, can kill that something > > without intervention > > of a > > > human. > > > > > > Remember, guns don't kill people. People kill > > people. A gun doesn't > > pull > > > its own trigger. A pit bull does. > > > > > > -E > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

[Kyle]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "reddogguy1" wrote:

> Hey, Looking for chief - Got a fire to put out! Looking for the > secretary to type it - will hold. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Actually, my Golden Retriever, Buckley, all 100 lb's > > of him can be the meanest dog you have ever seen in > > your life. He has bit everyone in my household, some > > of us badly. Why? He is insane. He broke a tooth, a > > big one in the back, and it was broke for the first > > few years of his life, we never knew. It drove him > > mad. We love our dogs (the kids and I) as much as we > > love each other. Buckly is the sweetest, most loving > > dog in the world, but some things, like food and other > > dogs make him insane. We did not train him that way, > > he is simply insane. > > I know, I am a bad person for owning him, but I truly > > love him, and, the real kicker, my kids love him, > > though he has bit them all. If I got rid of him they > > would never forgive me. And when he aint a nut case, > > he is just so gentle and sweet. Point is, any dog can > > bite the shit out of you, give the right circumstance, > > bad news is Pit Bulls, and ROtts both have been bread > > so long with bad intention, it's in their blood, same > > as a retreiver retrieves without question, it in-bread > > --- Gerald Sdoutz wrote: > > > OK, I was trying really hard to stay out of this > > > debate, but I just got to > > > throw in my two cents here. > > > > > > Yup, people kill people, they just use guns to do > > > it. > > > > > > Pit bulls kill people, but why? Do they think we > > > are prey? If so why don't > > > they all kill people? Why would a properly fed > > > properly trained dog, be it > > > pit bull or any other breed, have to kill a person > > > for prey, ie. food, > > > unless its owner has either neglected it, mistreated > > > it, or trained it too? > > > Even if they didn't, and the dog just turned out to > > > be a killing machine, > > > shouldn't you as the owner know what it is and act > > > responsibly, ie. don't > > > set it on the neighbours, don't let it run around > > > without a leash, or > > > muzzle, or best yet, if the dog is that dangerous > > > have it euthanized. > > > > > > In other words, I think, its just another example of > > > people killing people, > > > they just left their gun at home and got the dog to > > > do it. > > > > > > Gerald who has owned a pit bull (half breed) for the > > > past 7 years, best dog > > > I ever owned. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > > > Behalf Of Kyle > > > Sent: May 12, 2005 7:26 PM > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Re: NKLR Denver Seizing > > > and Killing your Pit Bulls > > > > > > Jesus H. Chriminy! For once I agree with the > > > Greenster! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Eric L. Green" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, 12 May 2005, don cain wrote: > > > > > Hmmm, > > > > > Replace 'pit bull' with 'gun.' and you have the > > > same argument for > > > > > getting rid of all guns also.... > > > > > > > > Except guns don't have brains, and can't kill > > > anybody unless a man is > > > > pulling the trigger. Whereas a pit bull has a > > > brain, and if it decides > > > > that something is prey, can kill that something > > > without intervention > > > of a > > > > human. > > > > > > > > Remember, guns don't kill people. People kill > > > people. A gun doesn't > > > pull > > > > its own trigger. A pit bull does. > > > > > > > > -E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > > www.dualsportnews.com > > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > > www.dualsportnews.com > > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

[Kyle]

A thought: as long as we have dogs that bite, we have good cause to have guns, if none other exists. "does your dog bite?" no, my dog does NOT bite! "ouch!!.....thought you said your dog does not bite?!!!!" THAT is NOT my dog. Pink Panther (funnier in the french accent). --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "reddogguy1" wrote:

> Hey, Looking for chief - Got a fire to put out! Looking for the > secretary to type it - will hold. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Actually, my Golden Retriever, Buckley, all 100 lb's > > of him can be the meanest dog you have ever seen in > > your life. He has bit everyone in my household, some > > of us badly. Why? He is insane. He broke a tooth, a > > big one in the back, and it was broke for the first > > few years of his life, we never knew. It drove him > > mad. We love our dogs (the kids and I) as much as we > > love each other. Buckly is the sweetest, most loving > > dog in the world, but some things, like food and other > > dogs make him insane. We did not train him that way, > > he is simply insane. > > I know, I am a bad person for owning him, but I truly > > love him, and, the real kicker, my kids love him, > > though he has bit them all. If I got rid of him they > > would never forgive me. And when he aint a nut case, > > he is just so gentle and sweet. Point is, any dog can > > bite the shit out of you, give the right circumstance, > > bad news is Pit Bulls, and ROtts both have been bread > > so long with bad intention, it's in their blood, same > > as a retreiver retrieves without question, it in-bread > > --- Gerald Sdoutz wrote: > > > OK, I was trying really hard to stay out of this > > > debate, but I just got to > > > throw in my two cents here. > > > > > > Yup, people kill people, they just use guns to do > > > it. > > > > > > Pit bulls kill people, but why? Do they think we > > > are prey? If so why don't > > > they all kill people? Why would a properly fed > > > properly trained dog, be it > > > pit bull or any other breed, have to kill a person > > > for prey, ie. food, > > > unless its owner has either neglected it, mistreated > > > it, or trained it too? > > > Even if they didn't, and the dog just turned out to > > > be a killing machine, > > > shouldn't you as the owner know what it is and act > > > responsibly, ie. don't > > > set it on the neighbours, don't let it run around > > > without a leash, or > > > muzzle, or best yet, if the dog is that dangerous > > > have it euthanized. > > > > > > In other words, I think, its just another example of > > > people killing people, > > > they just left their gun at home and got the dog to > > > do it. > > > > > > Gerald who has owned a pit bull (half breed) for the > > > past 7 years, best dog > > > I ever owned. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > > > Behalf Of Kyle > > > Sent: May 12, 2005 7:26 PM > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Re: NKLR Denver Seizing > > > and Killing your Pit Bulls > > > > > > Jesus H. Chriminy! For once I agree with the > > > Greenster! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Eric L. Green" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, 12 May 2005, don cain wrote: > > > > > Hmmm, > > > > > Replace 'pit bull' with 'gun.' and you have the > > > same argument for > > > > > getting rid of all guns also.... > > > > > > > > Except guns don't have brains, and can't kill > > > anybody unless a man is > > > > pulling the trigger. Whereas a pit bull has a > > > brain, and if it decides > > > > that something is prey, can kill that something > > > without intervention > > > of a > > > > human. > > > > > > > > Remember, guns don't kill people. People kill > > > people. A gun doesn't > > > pull > > > > its own trigger. A pit bull does. > > > > > > > > -E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > > www.dualsportnews.com > > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > > www.dualsportnews.com > > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

[jay carlson]

Round 3 of this thread goes to Kyle. Judges scoring follows: Kyle 27 Rest of the list 1 Kyle wrote:

>Apples and Oranges....can't possible, you can't seriously with hold >that argument. > >What will you say when someone dies of food poising...car >wreck...plane crash....do we need to go on. > >Catagoric condemnation of instruments of death is plainly impractical. >This is the mindset of an ill-influenced 12year old liberal raised by >lesbian hippies malnurished from lack of protiens. > > > >--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, don cain wrote: > > >>Sorry, >>The base argument is 'Pit bulls cause death - get rid of Pitbulls' vs. >>'Guns cause death - get rid of guns.' Same thing, less pitbulls - >>less innocent death = less guns - less innocent death..... Who cares >>if the killing device can think or not - it causes death...... >> >>-don >> >>On 5/12/05, Eric L. Green wrote: >> >> >>>On Thu, 12 May 2005, don cain wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hmmm, >>>>Replace 'pit bull' with 'gun.' and you have the same argument for >>>>getting rid of all guns also.... >>>> >>>> >>>Except guns don't have brains, and can't kill anybody unless a man is >>>pulling the trigger. Whereas a pit bull has a brain, and if it decides >>>that something is prey, can kill that something without >>> >>> >intervention of a > > >>>human. >>> >>>Remember, guns don't kill people. People kill people. A gun >>> >>> >doesn't pull > > >>>its own trigger. A pit bull does. >>> >>>-E >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>--My greatest fear in life is not death, but waking up one morning >>ordinary and predictable. >> >> > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >