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[Michael T]

Has anyone used Tammys (looking for assessment on illumination comparison vs. stock)? Michael T A16 lasvegasrider -----Original Message----- From: dumbazz_650 [mailto:dumbazz_650@...] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 12:03 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Meter Assembly bulbs

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Saltzer" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lujo Bauer wrote: > > I thought they were all the same. The bulbs in mine all look > identical, > > and swapping LEDs and random instrument-cluster bulbs back and > forth > > didn't reveal otherwise. I think 168 and 194 are compatible but > more > > common designations. > > > > -Lujo > > Ohhhhhhhh yea. That's the other thing I have been meaning to do. > Change out the bulbs to LED's.............where do I get them? > > MrMoose > A8 (Barbie and Ken special) Tammy has them listed on her site. Note that the turn indicator is special in that it passes current both directions, so I suspect there is no subst yet for the incandescant version. MarkB List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links

[Paul Wilson]

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:09:54 -0800, Michael T wrote:

> > Has anyone used Tammys (looking for assessment on illumination comparison > vs. stock)? > > > Michael T > A16 > lasvegasrider > > -----Original Message----- > From: dumbazz_650 [mailto:dumbazz_650@...] > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lujo Bauer wrote: > > > I thought they were all the same. The bulbs in mine all look > > identical, > > > and swapping LEDs and random instrument-cluster bulbs back and > > forth > > > didn't reveal otherwise. > > > > > > -Lujo > > > > Ohhhhhhhh yea. That's the other thing I have been meaning to do. > > Change out the bulbs to LED's.............where do I get them? > > > > MrMoose > > A8 (Barbie and Ken special) > > Tammy has them listed on her site. Note that the turn indicator is special > in that it passes current both directions, so I suspect there is no subst > yet for the incandescant version. > MarkB >

OK, how about the Dual Star plug'n'play LED replacement for the tail-light/brakelight? Kinda spendy, but that will free up a few watts too. And, has the flashing feature to wake up (potentially) the somnolent cagers on your six. -- Paul in DC - www.wilsonline.org 95 VFR - 90 KLR

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

My b'day was yesterday. Anyway, I've tried a few different ones and I like the amber 6-LED 194 bulb from superbrightleds.com. Mark At 4:14 PM -0500 1/3/05, Guy B. Young II wrote:

>Hey!, It's my b'day. I know not what I do. > >:-) > >Your review tells exactly what I experienced. FWIW - I also >installed a set in my Concours, with the same results. All the ones >that provide backlighting for the instruments have come out and >incadescents put back in. > >Guy

[a14@att.net]

My b'day was Saturday. Hope you both enjoyed yours. Who's b'day is tomorrow? Oh yea, haven't tried LED's but love the studs. Walt

> > My b'day was yesterday. > Anyway, I've tried a few different ones and I like the amber 6-LED > 194 bulb from superbrightleds.com. > > Mark > > At 4:14 PM -0500 1/3/05, Guy B. Young II wrote: > >Hey!, It's my b'day. I know not what I do. > > > >:-) > > > >Your review tells exactly what I experienced. FWIW - I also > >installed a set in my Concours, with the same results. All the ones > >that provide backlighting for the instruments have come out and > >incadescents put back in. > > > >Guy >

[Lujo Bauer]

Well happy birthday to you too then! And you also, Walt! Mark, do the 6-LED bulbs provide as much illumination as the stock incandescent bulbs? -Lujo

On Jan 3, 2005, at 7:26 PM, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote: > My b'day was yesterday. > Anyway, I've tried a few different ones and I like the amber 6-LED 194 > bulb from superbrightleds.com. > > Mark > > At 4:14 PM -0500 1/3/05, Guy B. Young II wrote: >> Hey!, It's my b'day. I know not what I do. >> >> >> >> Your review tells exactly what I experienced. FWIW - I also >> installed a set in my Concours, with the same results. All the ones >> that provide backlighting for the instruments have come out and >> incadescents put back in. >> >> Guy

[Guy B. Young II]

Lujo, I'll use your message as the means to thank all for the b'day wishes, and Happy B'day to the others who have hit that milestone(?). I may have to find one of them critters (6-LED - LED) to see just how much current *they* draw. At some point, multiple LED lamps in a single format are going to approach the current draw of a conventional incadescent lamp. Yeah, they may have a longer service life, but factor in the higher cost + a (potentially) similar current draw, there's not any benefit. Lujo, where'd you get your 6-LED version? TIA Guy -----Original Message----- From: Lujo Bauer Sent: Jan 4, 2005 12:53 AM To: Tengai Mark Van Horn Cc: "Guy B. Young II" , KLR 650 LIST dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Meter Assembly bulbs Well happy birthday to you too then! And you also, Walt! Mark, do the 6-LED bulbs provide as much illumination as the stock incandescent bulbs? -Lujo

On Jan 3, 2005, at 7:26 PM, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote: > My b'day was yesterday. > Anyway, I've tried a few different ones and I like the amber 6-LED 194 > bulb from superbrightleds.com. > > Mark > > At 4:14 PM -0500 1/3/05, Guy B. Young II wrote: >> Hey!, It's my b'day. I know not what I do. >> >> >> >> Your review tells exactly what I experienced. FWIW - I also >> installed a set in my Concours, with the same results. All the ones >> that provide backlighting for the instruments have come out and >> incadescents put back in. >> >> Guy List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links

[dsmeclipse]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "jamackinlay" wrote:

> > Hi, > I checked the KLR FAQ and couldn't find what type of bulbs are the > ones for "Turn" and "Neutral" in the meter assy. > > The KLR FAQ says that the bullbs in the meter assy are the 158 (or > 194), but those are the ones for "Hi Beam" and meter gauges lights. > > Intotal, the meter assembly has four 158 bulbs (part #92069-1007) > plus 2 other --smaller- ones for "Turn" and "Neutral" (part#92069- > 1068). > Anubody knows what bulb model are these last two ones? > > Thanks, > Jose

[Keith Saltzer]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lujo Bauer wrote:

> Inspired by a reply from Guy (did you mean to cc the list as

well?), I

> decided it might be useful if I were more specific about my

experience

> with using LEDs for instrument-panel lighting. > > I used single-LED replacement units for the turn signal, high beam,

and

> neutral lights. These looked nice in the shade, but in direct

sunlight

> or shifting light they were harder to see than the original bulbs. > During a sunny day, for example, I had a hard time seeing whether

my

> high beam indicator was on. > > I used multiple-LED replacement bulbs for lighting the tach and

speedo.

> I believe the ones I used had either two or four LEDs each. > Lighting was much worse than stock. Only parts of the instruments

were

> illuminated, and I couldn't see the speedo needle well in the

darkness

> unless it was somewhere on the left (say, below 35 mph). > > I experimented with both (so called) diffuse LED bulbs and ordinary > ones. I couldn't see any difference in how they performed when > installed in the instrument panel. > > Don't get me wrong -- it's not that one *can't* light an instrument > panel with LEDs (in fact, I still have most of them in there); it's

just

> that they provide noticeably poorer illumination that incandescent > bulbs. And of course, this only applies to the LEDs I found two

years

> ago. If someone succeeds in finding LED bulbs that work well in

the

> KLR's instrument panel, I'd love to know about it. > > Cheers, > > -Lujo

Thanks for all the informative info guys. Me thinks I'll wait on the better bulbs to show up too, but at least I will know what to look out for. I like saving some wattage, but not at the cost of not seeing my instrument cluster, that's for sure. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

[Lujo Bauer]

> I may have to find one of them critters (6-LED - LED) to see just how > much current *they* draw. At some point, multiple LED lamps in a > single format are going to approach the current draw of a conventional > incadescent lamp. Yeah, they may have a longer service life, but > factor in the higher cost + a (potentially) similar current draw, > there's not any benefit. > > Lujo, where'd you get your 6-LED version?

Mark was the one who tried the 6-LED version, and I believe he said he got them from superbrightleds.com. I've gotten LEDs from in the past as well. I share your concerns about the cost/benefit ratio. However, I just took a look at their site, and if I'm reading the specs page correctly, the 6-LED bulbs draw almost the same amount of current as the single-LED ones, while producing much more light. Seems pretty bizarre. -Lujo

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 12:53 AM -0500 1/4/05, Lujo Bauer wrote:

>Mark, do the 6-LED bulbs provide as much illumination as the stock >incandescent bulbs?

I'll try to get off my ass and do a side-by-side comparison & let you know in a day or two. All I can say right now is that I'm satisfied with the amber 6-LED bulb (I only have one of them in so far as I bought an assortment to test). I performs better than the 4-LED white and single white inverted cone LED that I also tried. I'm going to order a bunch more this week to finish the job and to do up another one of my KLRs. Mark