I> Me ... I like my Snap On's and Proto tools .. the Proto brand is from when
Where do you find Proto ? And where in Chicago is that ? Bogdan List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links> lived in Chicago nearly 20 years ago .. and they are still good! >
For people who have to have a tool work and not fail, Proto and Armstrong are far superior to anything Sears will ever make for sure. I used to be a dealer for both for a few years. The biggest customers were the people regularly using 3/4" and 1" drive stuff, diesel/marine mechanics, boiler techs and iron workers. The only trouble is that if I recall correctly a 1/2" drive ratchet from Armstrong was nearly a c-note and that was back in '88 or so. The 'trick' with Craftsman stuff is to have more than one of everything. It's so cheap you can double up a pair of 300 piece sets and still be well below a 150pc Snapon setup. Then when something breaks, you have your spare until you can exchange the pieces. When I worked with a pit crew doing modified race tire work, we used to have a full bucket of the impact sockets and other frequently used 'regular' pieces. About once a month we'd go exchange them, cleaning out the two local stores. When you take back a socket that was clearly shattered by an impact gun, or better yet, about a dozen of them, and nobody asks you a thing during the exchange....they can get my money any day.> Me ... I like my Snap On's and Proto tools .. the Proto brand is from when I > lived in Chicago nearly 20 years ago .. and they are still good! > > PauL M. Bober
Proto is the industrial line from Stanley tools. Generally you find them at industrial supply places. McMaster or Grainger may stock Proto or Armstrong (equally heavy duty, if not more so).>>Me ... I like my Snap On's and Proto tools .. the Proto brand is from when I >>lived in Chicago nearly 20 years ago .. and they are still good! >> > > Where do you find Proto ? And where in Chicago is that ? > > Bogdan
I think, at the very least, Sears is paying for somewhat more quality control on the Craftsman-branded ones. I've actually been through a few of the Sam's Club and Costco units -- one fell apart, one didn't go together because it was made wrong, a friend had the same problem on one bought at Costco instead of Sam's, and with a different brand name on it; I used a grinder to make my last Sam's unit fit together; my friend took his Costco one back and bought one that looked very similar, but not quite the same, at Sears, and I have to say it's just generally somewhat tighter and more reassuring to balance a few hundred pounds of weight on, not to mention that it went together with no grinding and no use of the dead-blow hammer. Thor> > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, tim dermody wrote: > > Frank, > > > > It's a simple Chineese knock-off of other more > > exspensive (better?) brands. I have a Craftsman lift > > which I like lots. > > Which is the more expensive, better name brand? I would guess that the > Chinese lift sold by Harbor Freight is no better or worse than the Chinese- > made Craftsman, or the one from Checker, or the one from Wally World for > that matter.
I can't compare different models and have no opinion about which is better, but I can say that I've been satisfied with the lift I got from Sears in the spring. It's not built with the precision of a Swiss watch, but it's not hard to use, does what it's supposed to, and doesn't have any glaring problems that would cause me to lose confidence in it. -Lujo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>>Which is the more expensive, better name brand? I would guess that the >>Chinese lift sold by Harbor Freight is no better or worse than the Chinese- >>made Craftsman, or the one from Checker, or the one from Wally World for >>that matter. > > I think, at the very least, Sears is paying for somewhat more quality > control on the Craftsman-branded ones. I've actually been through a few > of the Sam's Club and Costco units -- one fell apart, one didn't go together > because it was made wrong, a friend had the same problem on one bought at > Costco instead of Sam's, and with a different brand name on it; I used a > grinder to make my last Sam's unit fit together; my friend took his Costco > one back and bought one that looked very similar, but not quite the same, > at Sears, and I have to say it's just generally somewhat tighter and more > reassuring to balance a few hundred pounds of weight on, not to mention > that it went together with no grinding and no use of the dead-blow hammer.
where> > One issue is that many of us work for a living in environments
work> making phone calls is difficult to impossible. > because it takes sometimes quite a bit of effort to break away from
I second that. Its almost impossible for me to call someone between 5am and 5pm. even if I et up at 4am I dont want to talk to anyone that earley. After 5pm I am busy doing other things so I dont have time. E-mail works great for me. but this list works great when you might need an answer on weekends or late at night> and do the calling during normal business hours. (And for the folks > working hourly, it costs *money* to do so, while the list is free). > > > > -E
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