wanted: rear brake disk for klr650

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Mike Torst
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Post by Mike Torst » Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:28 pm

> -----Original Message----- > From: Zachariah Mully [mailto:zmully@...] > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:16 PM > To: Mike Torst > Cc: 'Jeff Saline'; KLR List > Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Sprocket Questions > > On Tue, 2004-02-03 at 16:04, Mike Torst wrote: > > > Or, you could get a 13T front and get the same relative benefit using > the > > stock rear sprocket. > > > > Just a thought - I use 14, 15 and 16t fronts w/ my stock rear. The 14t > has > > been good enough for technical areas, so far, and still allow me to get > home > > on the street without buzzing the motor to death. Oh, and I still have > the > > same 106 link chain sizing. > > The 13/43 combo is fine for the rides to/from the dirt as well. I didn't > notice much difference in gas mileage, nor does the RPM change bother me > that much. It does limit your top speed, but my driving record could use > the rest. Watch out with that combo and a 106L chain, you'll eat you > inner fender unless it's been completely trimmed off. > > Oh and 13/43 rocks offroad. > > Z > DC > A5X > A12X
VERY good point on the fender - I'll check it if I ever go below 14t up front! Mike Torst Las Vegas

Mike Torst
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Post by Mike Torst » Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:35 pm

> -----Original Message----- > From: Zachariah Mully [mailto:zmully@...] > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 2:04 PM > To: Jeff Saline > Cc: vegasklr@...; KLR List; Jake Jakeman > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Sprocket Questions > > On Tue, 2004-02-03 at 16:30, Jeff Saline wrote: > > Zach and Mike T talk about using a 13 tooth front with the stock 43 > tooth > > rear sprocket. > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > Zach and Mike, > > > > Thanks for your comments. I just posted a reply to Dooden's comments. > > > > I don't want to go any smaller than a 14 tooth front sprocket as I > > understand, but have no personal experience, that the decreased radius > of > > the 13 tooth sprocket will significantly accelerate chain wear. > > Jeff- > I passed this along to Jake Jakeman, who'd be the authority on chain > life with a 13T sprocket as I believe he runs a 13/41, or some such > beast. He doesn't like how close the chain gets to the sprocket cover > (and mag. wires beneath it) with a 16T. > I very much doubt that a 13T is going to have any noticable effect > on > chainlife, not on a 35HP bike, and not if you maintain your chain. > Besides, you're going to replace them all at the same time and finding a > 13T sprocket is much easier than some odd ball rear sprocket. > > > Z > DC > A5X > A12X
------------------------- Ugg - Agree - the 16T will scare the THIN plastic separator of the sprocket cover/harness. NO room for .020" armor SS shielding (to protect the wires) either. The 16t is THAT tight. Mike Torst Las Vegas

hijklr
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Post by hijklr » Tue Feb 03, 2004 6:59 pm

Jeff, I switched to 43/14 gearing on my 03 for more off-road torque - still needs more. After studying your numbers, I think a good compromise would be to run a 45 rear and switch between 14 and 15 front. The 45/15 offers better highway speed/efficiency and the 45/14 better offroad muscle than the 43/14. If I get lazy/in a hurry and don't change the front to 14 - still more torque than stock. I like this config. The clearance with the 16 front also scares me and the highway doesn't look good with 46/15 gearing.

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Post by Judson D. Jones » Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:09 pm

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Torst" wrote:
>
Watch out with that combo and a 106L chain, you'll eat you
> > inner fender unless it's been completely trimmed off. > > > > Oh and 13/43 rocks offroad. > VERY good point on the fender - I'll check it if I ever go below
14t up
> front! >
A K270 with 14/43 ate my inner fender. Just cut it off now and mount the plate on the fender under the taillight.

Judson D. Jones
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Post by Judson D. Jones » Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:09 pm

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Torst" wrote:
>
Watch out with that combo and a 106L chain, you'll eat you
> > inner fender unless it's been completely trimmed off. > > > > Oh and 13/43 rocks offroad. > VERY good point on the fender - I'll check it if I ever go below
14t up
> front! >
A K270 with 14/43 ate my inner fender. Just cut it off now and mount the plate on the fender under the taillight.

Mike Torst
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Post by Mike Torst » Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:12 pm

> -----Original Message----- > From: Judson D. Jones [mailto:judjonzz@...] > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 6:08 PM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Sprocket Questions > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Torst" wrote: > > > Watch out with that combo and a 106L chain, you'll eat you > > > inner fender unless it's been completely trimmed off. > > > > > > Oh and 13/43 rocks offroad. > > VERY good point on the fender - I'll check it if I ever go below > 14t up > > front! > > > > A K270 with 14/43 ate my inner fender. Just cut it off now and mount > the plate on the fender under the taillight. >
-------------- Yup - Already relocated the license plate. But that extra 1/4" rearward wheel location test I just did ( removing the lower link bolt so that I could freely moved the swing arm) was pretty close, but workable. It improved my clearance to the Big Gun head pipe and Laser Duro, but the rear fender lip was pretty close. :-\ At least w/ my 14t front sprocket the clearance is totally acceptable. Mike Torst Las Vegas

bmrbill
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Post by bmrbill » Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:47 pm

Jeff, I tried a 16/45 once. The 106L chain was not long enough. As I recall, I also had a new rear tire. That only made it worse. Try what I tried last month- go from a 14/43 to a 16/43 in the same day. I ended up asking myself, "What's really wrong with the 15/43? Nothing." With a 14t, I still can't keep up with my buddy on his CR500 in the dirt. The KLR's suspension bottoms out hard. (Be nice- I'm 5'11", 175lbs) But then, he can't touch me on the pavement, 14t or otherwise. Ride safe, Bill- who needs to order a new 15t to replace the worn out one.
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > KLRers, > > I'm trying to decide what to do about sprockets on my 03 KLR. Stock > sprockets are 15 frt and 43 rear. I have been toying with the idea of > putting a 45 tooth rear sprocket on the bike so I could run a 16 front on > the highway and drop to a 14 front for dirt/lower speed work. Last night > I think I may have located a source for a 46 tooth rear sprocket. > Figuring out ratios, that looks very appealing. By my calculations, > which could be wrong, the 16/46 combination should slow my bike about > 0.3% from a stock 15/43 set up. But changing to a 14/46 should drop it a > whopping 14.6% for a significant increase in torque. Changing from a > 15/43 (stock set up) to a 14/43 only changes the ratio about 7.2%. > > Do any of you folks have experience with a 46 tooth rear sprocket on a > KLR 650? > > Anybody know if I'll need to add a link to the chain? > > How about sharing any downsides you perceive to using a 46 tooth rear > sprocket. > > Here's what I came up with on ratios for different sprocket combinations. > > combo ratio % from stock > 16/43 2.687 +6.661 > 16/44 2.750 +4.218 > 16/45 2.813 +1.920 > 15/43 2.866 Stock > 16/46 2.875 -0.314 > 15/44 2.933 -2.337 > 15/45 3.000 -4.675 > 15/46 3.066 -6.978 > 14/43 3.071 -7.152 > 14/44 3.143 -9.630 > 14/45 3.214 -12.142 > 14/46 3.285 -14.619 > > Thanks, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

Mike Torst
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Post by Mike Torst » Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:44 pm

> -----Original Message----- > From: bmrbill [mailto:bmrbill@...] > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:47 PM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Sprocket Questions > > Jeff, > I tried a 16/45 once. The 106L chain was not long enough. As I > recall, I also had a new rear tire. That only made it worse. Try > what I tried last month- go from a 14/43 to a 16/43 in the same > day. I ended up asking myself, "What's really wrong with the > 15/43? Nothing." With a 14t, I still can't keep up with my buddy > on his CR500 in the dirt. The KLR's suspension bottoms out hard. > (Be nice- I'm 5'11", 175lbs) But then, he can't touch me on the > pavement, 14t or otherwise. > Ride safe, > Bill- who needs to order a new 15t to replace the worn out one. > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > KLRers, > > > > I'm trying to decide what to do about sprockets on my 03 KLR. > Stock > > sprockets are 15 frt and 43 rear. I have been toying with the > idea of > > putting a 45 tooth rear sprocket on the bike so I could run a 16 > front on > > the highway and drop to a 14 front for dirt/lower speed work. > Last night > > I think I may have located a source for a 46 tooth rear sprocket. > > Figuring out ratios, that looks very appealing. By my > calculations, > > which could be wrong, the 16/46 combination should slow my bike > about > > 0.3% from a stock 15/43 set up. But changing to a 14/46 should > drop it a > > whopping 14.6% for a significant increase in torque. Changing > from a > > 15/43 (stock set up) to a 14/43 only changes the ratio about 7.2%. > > > > Do any of you folks have experience with a 46 tooth rear sprocket > on a > > KLR 650? > > > > Anybody know if I'll need to add a link to the chain? > > > > How about sharing any downsides you perceive to using a 46 tooth > rear > > sprocket. > >
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> > Thanks, > > > > Jeff Saline > > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT >
=------------- Nice reply - Try this - I weigh 230 dry. Add my gear I push 250lb w/o Taco Bell fueling. I like all three common front sprockets (14, 15, and the so tight front clearance 16t). My new chain is AOK. The fender/ exhaust clearance is OK w/ all three front sprockets. I love the 16t on the freeway, the 15t is great on short trips (I even used it in Death Valley a week plus ago). The 14t is great outside of Las Vegas, (were terrain issues are always in need of a front wheel lift). I am close to buying a 13t for the mess of terrain I need to get 'tractor' on, but in all cases {rear fender clearance included}, I expect to use the same rear sprocket and D.I.D x-ring 106-link chain. BTW, I am using a conventional master-link - NO problems! :-) The clip is still on, even after cruising at 92-94mph (per Garmin GPS V data) using the 16t front sprocket. I did make sure the base plate for the link was firmly pressed upon the supplied O-rings and grease, and the clip was made very true w/ two sets of pliers before mounting in the correct relationship to chain rotation. IMHO, the rear sprocket is fine. The D.I.D. x-ring chain is great, and aligning the sprockets is priceless (ok, my bad). Mike Torst Las Vegas

n4lj
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wanted: rear brake disk for klr650

Post by n4lj » Wed Feb 04, 2004 2:31 pm

I am looking for a used rear brake rotor in good condition. I have a extra rear wheel for my KLR650,,but it is missing the brake rotor. Thanks. Jim A17 Lexington, Ky

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