moab trip in late july

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tips for high altitude riding?

Post by xs650@dejazzd.com » Thu Jul 17, 2003 7:59 am

Not to be argumentative, but why not switch out to a K&N filter at higher elevations to help lean out the mixture? This is a quick, easy change, and easily reversible. Eric in Pa
> > From: "Mark Sampson" > Date: 2003/07/17 Thu AM 08:00:11 EDT > To: "KLR650" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Tips for High Altitude Riding? > > > I agree------to do absolutely nothing to your KLR to ride high altitudes. > It will do fine----the idle will drop and the power will drop----but it will > do fine. And when you come back down-----you can do nothing again, as it > will run fine !!!! > I've stood and watched guys diddle with jetting several times on the road > and trail while I just stood and watched. > Have a clean air filter tho. > > > Mark Sampson > www.bigdogadventures.com > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

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tips for high altitude riding?

Post by Judson D. Jones » Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:21 am

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
> Not to be argumentative, but why not switch out to a K&N filter
at higher elevations to help lean out the mixture? This is a quick, easy change, and easily reversible. You could do that, that's for sure: "Lessee, where do I stash that oily old foam filter while I run my K&N at altitude? Right in here, on top of my socks, that's the ticket". The point is you don't have to do anything for the bike to run well at high elevations, a plus when touring.

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tips for high altitude riding?

Post by Judson D. Jones » Thu Jul 17, 2003 2:41 pm

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, robert bowman wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 July 2003 18:00, Judson D. Jones wrote: > > You will notice some power loss due to the reduced > > air density at altitude, but your mixture will be OK. > > I might add that YOU, and not your bike, will notice some power
loss, too.
> Hiking at 14000 is a good preview of emphysema. A lot of the higher > elevations are really pretty gentle slope and you mind will tell
you to go
> faster than your body can support.
Man, you don't need to tell me. I get over 8000 ft., and I am good for one retrieval effort, no more. Well, maybe two, if the bike has electric start. I wish I'd started off-roading when I was about twenty, instead of waiting until fifty.

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tips for high altitude riding?

Post by kdxkawboy@aol.com » Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:57 pm

In a message dated 2003-07-17 12:44:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, judjonzz@... writes:
> > > >I might add that YOU, and not your bike, will notice some power > loss, too. > >Hiking at 14000 is a good preview of emphysema. A lot of the higher > >elevations are really pretty gentle slope and you mind will tell > you to go > >faster than your body can support. > > Man, you don't need to tell me. I get over 8000 ft., and I am good > for one retrieval effort, no more. Well, maybe two, if the bike has > electric start. I wish I'd started off-roading when I was about > twenty, instead of waiting until fifty. > >
The other way is to have spent you're life living at altitude while riding dirt bikes and skiing. For me the thinner air is the norm and when I go downhill its like my body and bike get supercharged. Many folks have mentioned the bother of adjusting jetting when a CV carb is self compensating and they are right. However my background is in off road racing where re-jetting is just part of your setup for each race so long ago it just become part of my maintenance drill. If you live at altitude you will get an advantage from getting the jetting sorted for altitude. Since a live at 4700' feet, which is the about average altitude for the floor of the Great Basin it made sense to me to take the time to get the bike jetted for high altitude. Unless I plan a long trip to the cost I never really hit any situations that requires rejetting from my base setting. And when I do take such trips I usually prep with a valve adjustment which makes it easy to get in and swap main jets. I'll live with that jetting until my next valve adjustment when I put back in my high altitude main jet. In my years riding, and driving, I've never noticed any problems with a vehicle jetted for high altitudes when they are used at sea level. If anything, the performance drop folks see going up in altitude without adjusting their jetting is about the same amount of performance improvement I see when I go down in elevation. So if I'm going downhill I wont bother changing jetting until I plan to spend a week or more at the lower elevations. I figure that logic would work just as well when going up in elevation. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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moab trip in late july

Post by crevicecave » Fri Jul 18, 2003 9:34 am

I did the WRT last year solo. What I did was camp at Dead Horse Point State Park. I left there at about 30-45 minutes before sunrise when the temps were more bearable. I rode the trail clockwise starting down Shafer Trail. The first hour or two were great. The last two hours, the trail was starting to drag on and on with the increasing heat. I took my time and set up numerous tripod shots while the light was still "soft". A hike to White Crack was a nice little break. Roughly near the parks NW entrance along Green River there is a place called Hittle Bottom? that has some shade trees. Outside that the only time you will be in shade is early morning in the canyon shadows. I arrived back at Dead Horse around 2PM. Brad Blackburn XT350

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