tech day - balancer failures

[Devon Jarvis]

"tammy@..." wrote:

> > Z, > I understand what your saying but what we fail to see is the dealers. > With all the ones I have done to date none one the owners felt right > letting a dealer do the work

And this is surprising because? (see below)

> I've only seen one fail so far and on this KLR the owner took it to a dealer > when on a trip to cheang the oil and part of the doohickey came out with > the oil, they did not know what it was and the bike ran fine so they let > the owner ride off

I'm sure the bike would run OK for at least a few miles if someone forgot the oil feed tube between the cam bearing caps. Another one of the reasons I will never take a bike to a dealer. Devon -- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

[tammy@dualsportrider.org]

Devon "And this is surprising" Nope not to me, I've seen dealers let bikes go without any oil in them. I've seen front wheels fly off, I've seen a bike come back cuz the motor locked up, the mechanic that worked on it droped a shim in the motor and could not fish it out so he left that one out and let the bike go, when it came back he said the owner ran the bike to hard and the shim poped out best part is it was a GPZ550, shim under the bucket LOL..... Tammy.... *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 6/2/2003 at 3:55 PM Devon Jarvis wrote: >"tammy@..." wrote: >> >> Z, >> I understand what your saying but what we fail to see is the dealers. >> With all the ones I have done to date none one the owners felt right >> letting a dealer do the work > >And this is surprising because? (see below) > >> I've only seen one fail so far and on this KLR the owner took it to a >dealer >> when on a trip to cheang the oil and part of the doohickey came out with >> the oil, they did not know what it was and the bike ran fine so they let >> the owner ride off > >I'm sure the bike would run OK for at least a few miles if >someone forgot the oil feed tube between the cam bearing >caps. Another one of the reasons I will never take a bike to >a dealer. > >Devon > >-- >"It's a troublesome world, >all the people who are in it, >are troubled with troubles >almost every minute" > >Dr. Seuss > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Arden Kysely]

I've seen my buddy's 851 Duck fly past me on Hwy 1 with the throttle stuck open because the mechanic that synched his throttle bodies left a mirror in there. And this was a premier Ducati shop. Imagine the bonehead shenannigans that pass for service with some of the nimrods calling themselves 'mechanics'. Anyone can make mistakes (I've ridden off with a chain adjuster loose, only to see the aluminum cap spinning like a propeller in the wind), but I either do the work myself (and have myself to blame) or hire it out to someone who's earned my trust. A good mechanic will stand behind his/her work, admit mistakes, and make good on them. The tough part is finding one. __Arden

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "tammy@d..." wrote: > Devon > "And this is surprising" Nope not to me, I've seen dealers let bikes go without any oil in them. > I've seen front wheels fly off, I've seen a bike come back cuz the motor locked up, the mechanic > that worked on it droped a shim in the motor and could not fish it out so he left that one out and > let the bike go, when it came back he said the owner ran the bike to hard and the shim poped out > best part is it was a GPZ550, shim under the bucket LOL..... > > Tammy.... > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 6/2/2003 at 3:55 PM Devon Jarvis wrote: > > >"tammy@d..." wrote: > >> > >> Z, > >> I understand what your saying but what we fail to see is the dealers. > >> With all the ones I have done to date none one the owners felt right > >> letting a dealer do the work > > > >And this is surprising because? (see below) > > > >> I've only seen one fail so far and on this KLR the owner took it to a > >dealer > >> when on a trip to cheang the oil and part of the doohickey came out with > >> the oil, they did not know what it was and the bike ran fine so they let > >> the owner ride off > > > >I'm sure the bike would run OK for at least a few miles if > >someone forgot the oil feed tube between the cam bearing > >caps. Another one of the reasons I will never take a bike to > >a dealer. > > > >Devon > > > >-- > >"It's a troublesome world, > >all the people who are in it, > >are troubled with troubles > >almost every minute" > > > >Dr. Seuss > > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[wannabsmooth1]

Bogdan showed up to change his spring for a shorter one - he had installed an aftermarket lever, back when only factory springs were available. The factory spring was broken! I would not have thought this would happen, as the lever was still in good shape - as expected (no, the lever was not one of mine!). Just goes to show - legendary KHI quality! We ran into another problem that I've only seen on the '94 & '95 bikes. The rotor seemed to be aligned correctly with the key, all was torqued (2 stage) to 130 lb, and we got a squalling noise from the engine when starter button pushed! We took it apart again , washer b/t rotor and starter galled, this was smoothed, washers behind starter had been previously observed to be damaged - edges rolled, and some galling. These had high spots removed. All was put back together with ANOTHER new bolt. Rotor torqued in 5 lb steps up to 120, checking how starter gear felt each 5 lb. Engine ran fine when started. Also, the short black bolt behind the starter gears was necking down badly, even when using a torgue wrench set to 104 in/lb. Who was it said "Kawasaki fasteners are like compressed oatmeal"? I told Bogdan we needed to sacrifice a chicken to cleanse his bike! He was a good sport all weekend - as noted before! Thanks to all who participated in the Tech Day - all great attitudes! total score - 3 broken springs, and 2 broken levers on Sat - Ron had found his broken on Fri - 1 bike had both broken! 7 bikes worked on Sat. Mike Eagle Mfg & Eng San Diego, Ca.