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Devon Jarvis
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Post by Devon Jarvis » Mon Apr 07, 2003 1:48 pm

As much as I hate to admit it, the Ducati self-retracting sidestand was a good solution- A good solution for a KLR with handguards and a radiator bar, not a good solution for a fully faired $16,000 sportbike. Maybe I'll figure out how to modify my sidestand to retract when you stand the bike up. Devon "Judson D. Jones" wrote:
> > After almost 40 years of relatively incident-free riding, the > sidestand finally bit me.

Arden Kysely
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Post by Arden Kysely » Mon Apr 07, 2003 3:06 pm

Some of the bikes I've owned in the past have had rubber tabs on the sidestand that would contact the ground first flip the stand up before it pole-vaulted you into the next county--a pretty simple and fail-safe solution to the problem. __Arden
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon Jarvis wrote: > As much as I hate to admit it, the Ducati self-retracting > sidestand was a good solution- A good solution for a KLR > with handguards and a radiator bar, not a good solution for > a fully faired $16,000 sportbike. > > Maybe I'll figure out how to modify my sidestand to retract > when you stand the bike up. > > Devon > > "Judson D. Jones" wrote: > > > > After almost 40 years of relatively incident-free riding, the > > sidestand finally bit me.

Ted Palmer
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Post by Ted Palmer » Tue Apr 08, 2003 7:23 am

Devon Jarvis wrote: [...]
> Maybe I'll figure out how to modify my sidestand to retract > when you stand the bike up.
If I were to design such a safety system, I would be inclined to have a spring loaded stand that retracted when the clutch lever was pulled in, but who would want such complexity? Mister_T Melbourne Australia

Devon Jarvis
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Post by Devon Jarvis » Tue Apr 08, 2003 8:35 am

Ducati had self-retracting sidestands on the early square-headlight Supersports. There's no Rube Goldberg apparatus, the spring is simply mounted aft of the sidestand pivot. This way when you put down the sidestand, it doesn't rotate to a point where the spring holds it in the down position. The weight of the bike holds the sidestand down, as soon as you lift the bike off the stand it snaps up. Unfortunately, Ducati was the only people to use this setup and people weren't familiar with it, they kept forgetting and dropping fully faired Ducatis on the ground. Devon A15 Ted Palmer wrote:
> > Devon Jarvis wrote: > [...] > > Maybe I'll figure out how to modify my sidestand to retract > > when you stand the bike up. > > If I were to design such a safety system, I would be inclined to have > a spring loaded stand that retracted when the clutch lever was pulled > in, but who would want such complexity? > > Mister_T > Melbourne Australia

Arden Kysely
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safety switches, why all the hoops

Post by Arden Kysely » Tue Apr 08, 2003 9:28 am

> If I were to design such a safety system, I would be inclined to
have
> a spring loaded stand that retracted when the clutch lever was
pulled
> in, but who would want such complexity? > > Mister_T > Melbourne Australia
And who would want their bike falling over every time they pull the clutch in while it's parked? Could make clutch cable maintenance a little tricky. :^) __Arden

James Hoving
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Post by James Hoving » Tue Apr 08, 2003 10:16 am

I had a Yamaha RD250 LC which had a similar set-up. Modified it the first day I got the bike. Got kind of a "built in" checklist that I go through when ever I get on a bike. I have never rode off with the side stand down... If I ever do I will take it off and start leaning the bike agains walls and stuff instead! :-) Oh, And I remeber some wierd bike that has an extra wire attached to the clutch lever. When you pulled the clutch this wire would fold up the side stand. Dont remember what bike it was but I thing it might have been a 80's Suzuki. /Jim Devon Jarvis wrote:
>Ducati had self-retracting sidestands on the early >square-headlight Supersports. There's no Rube Goldberg >apparatus, the spring is simply mounted aft of the sidestand >pivot. This way when you put down the sidestand, it doesn't >rotate to a point where the spring holds it in the down >position. The weight of the bike holds the sidestand down, >as soon as you lift the bike off the stand it snaps up. > >Unfortunately, Ducati was the only people to use this setup >and people weren't familiar with it, they kept forgetting >and dropping fully faired Ducatis on the ground. > >Devon >A15 > >Ted Palmer wrote: > > >>Devon Jarvis wrote: >>[...] >> >> >>>Maybe I'll figure out how to modify my sidestand to retract >>>when you stand the bike up. >>> >>> >>If I were to design such a safety system, I would be inclined to have >>a spring loaded stand that retracted when the clutch lever was pulled >>in, but who would want such complexity? >> >>Mister_T >>Melbourne Australia >> >> > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > >

Glen Mills
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Post by Glen Mills » Tue Apr 08, 2003 10:29 am

The KE 100 side stand automatically retracts when you pull the clutch. It seems to be a pretty simple system. (on a very simple bike) Devon Jarvis wrote:Ducati had self-retracting sidestands on the early square-headlight Supersports. There's no Rube Goldberg apparatus, the spring is simply mounted aft of the sidestand pivot. This way when you put down the sidestand, it doesn't rotate to a point where the spring holds it in the down position. The weight of the bike holds the sidestand down, as soon as you lift the bike off the stand it snaps up. Unfortunately, Ducati was the only people to use this setup and people weren't familiar with it, they kept forgetting and dropping fully faired Ducatis on the ground. Devon A15 Ted Palmer wrote:
> > Devon Jarvis wrote: > [...] > > Maybe I'll figure out how to modify my sidestand to retract > > when you stand the bike up. > > If I were to design such a safety system, I would be inclined to have > a spring loaded stand that retracted when the clutch lever was pulled > in, but who would want such complexity? > > Mister_T > Melbourne Australia
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monahanwb
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Post by monahanwb » Tue Apr 08, 2003 10:49 am

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Arden Kysely" wrote:
> > > If I were to design such a safety system, I would be inclined to > have > > a spring loaded stand that retracted when the clutch lever was > pulled > > in, but who would want such complexity? > > > > Mister_T > > Melbourne Australia > > And who would want their bike falling over every time they pull the > clutch in while it's parked? Could make clutch cable maintenance a > little tricky. :^) > > __Arden
Early BMW K-bikes had this system - weird, but it worked, and was never any trouble.

CHUCK
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Post by CHUCK » Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:52 pm

Well Mine are the ones any idiot can do, I am a prime example.. Day One Bought KLR Day Two, Order Kawasaki's Bags (All Tank, Side Rack,) ON the 3rd Day I e-mailed (Happy Trials) and Order Freeway Pegs.. {Installed..every KLR should come with them... LOVE Em..Thanks Guys and Gals Day Four, Order BIG GUN 'Quite Series' (Does install in like 10 min, I wasted a ton of time and i was done in like 35 or so minutes...EASY Install. Tammy) Day ..?? now I am not sure anymore.. But I have only had Bike about a month now 4/10/03 (375 miles) I work a lot and I need GREAT Weather or I am NOT riding PERIOD! Order Larger Front Brake Rotor and Braided Brakes Lines front and rear, (yet to be installed maybe tomarow) Fork Brace from Happy Trails (Not Yet installed maybe tomarrow also) Still to do, Front Springs, and 15W? forks oil..(Trying to stop total nose dive upon brakes and that is NOW with stock brakes yet.. can't Imagen what it will be with Gapper Brakes Kit.. (Dam 444 bucks with Pads and free shipping way Back ordered took like two weeks or something to get them to ship BUT I have them PRETTY LOOKING) Bar Snake, or other Anti Vib's fix.. (Ideas Thanks last weeks posts) May do HT Nerf's But they are Pricy.. Re-Jet Kit and 500 Miles Service (LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL all this before 500 miles! ) Now that living.. I always do this stupid stuff, Then you watch I will be selling it .. way too soon, If I follow past activities.. BUT this was sopossed to be MY Keeper till I depart Earth.. We shall See or I loose my Leg (already had accident years ago and suffering daily with trying to keep it.. so I thought Better get my last bit of riding in now B4 I can't or won't) I think that covers it.. recap: Kawa bags all Cruiser Pegs (HT) BIG Gun (Quite Series) Larger Front Brakes rotor Braided Brake Lines Front and rear. Fork Brace (HT) GPS From Closet to Tank Bag window 375 Miles or so.. Tonight... ===== Thanks Have a Great day. Chuck

bookwood55
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Post by bookwood55 » Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:48 pm

in 1983 my buddy had a 50cc Kawasaki brand spanking new in red and it had a clutch operated retracting system for the side stand. don;t quote me on the model but it looked like a smal GPz ride safe bookwood55 bookwood@... http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/bookwood/klr650.html
> > Ted Palmer wrote: > > > > Devon Jarvis wrote: > > [...] > > > Maybe I'll figure out how to modify my sidestand to retract > > > when you stand the bike up. > > > > If I were to design such a safety system, I would be inclined to
have
> > a spring loaded stand that retracted when the clutch lever was
pulled
> > in, but who would want such complexity? > > > > Mister_T > > Melbourne Australia

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