DSN_KLR650
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Judson D. Jones
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by Judson D. Jones » Fri Jan 03, 2003 3:36 pm
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "bkowalca "
wrote:
> After I read the "Preferred Scenario" I realized this is not a joke.
> This idea is wrong in so many ways. First of all it is just plain
> stupid, since the technology required to make this work is fairly
> expensive and would be very prone to failure, misreading and
> bypassing by the vehicle owner. The administrative costs and
> implementation costs would be huge, it might take years to recover
> them, and for what? I can't believe they are even considering this.
> It makes you think these bureaucrats don't have a clue how to make
> systems work.
>
> What if you live in Oregon and drive to Florida. Do you get charged
> $500 each way even if most of the miles are outside of Oregon? What
> if you ride off-road, do you get charged a road tax even if you
> didn't use a road? What if you drive across the border of Oregon and
> fill up your car, you wouldn't have to pay?
>
> Don't get me started, I can think of 50 ways why this wouldn't work.
> I'm sure a good lawyer could come up with another 50.
Like unconstitutional infringement of freedom of travel?
>
> Bryan K
> A14 - taxed to death in Canada, but not by the mile!
>
>
>
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Stuart Mumford
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by Stuart Mumford » Fri Jan 03, 2003 3:54 pm
It seem like in CA we have a new law every day lately, a little more
government, a little less freedom.
Friggin Fascists all over the damn place.
Whatever happened to the good old days, when you could go out in the orange
groves with a case of beer, a slingshot, a lighter, and some explosives and
have a good time without haveing som soccer mom in a SUV call 911 on your
ass?
I need less government and a laser super zapper on my front fender!
Fight the power!
CA Stu
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Conall O'Brien
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by Conall O'Brien » Fri Jan 03, 2003 5:38 pm
It's even worse, the gov't or anyone else can put a GPS tracker on your
vehicle without your knowledge quite easily.
Conall
>From: "bkowalca "
>To:
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR tax my motorcycle miles
>Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 17:49:23 -0000
>
>After I read the "Preferred Scenario" I realized this is not a joke.
>This idea is wrong in so many ways. First of all it is just plain
>stupid, since the technology required to make this work is fairly
>expensive and would be very prone to failure, misreading and
>bypassing by the vehicle owner. The administrative costs and
>implementation costs would be huge, it might take years to recover
>them, and for what? I can't believe they are even considering this.
>It makes you think these bureaucrats don't have a clue how to make
>systems work.
>
>What if you live in Oregon and drive to Florida. Do you get charged
>$500 each way even if most of the miles are outside of Oregon? What
>if you ride off-road, do you get charged a road tax even if you
>didn't use a road? What if you drive across the border of Oregon and
>fill up your car, you wouldn't have to pay?
>
>Don't get me started, I can think of 50 ways why this wouldn't work.
>I'm sure a good lawyer could come up with another 50.
>
>Bryan K
>A14 - taxed to death in Canada, but not by the mile!
>
>
>
>
>--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "BKLR" wrote:
> > Due to declining revenues generated from gasoline and fuel taxes,
>my Big Brother State of Oregon wants tax the miles I drive my car
>and KLR. The Government wants to install a GPS system on each
>vehicle, including motorcycles, and record and tax each mile driven
>in Oregon. The tax could be 25 cents a mile. Sounds crazy,
>ludicrous and Orwellian?
> >
> > Here is the proof:
> >
> >
http://www.odot.state.or.us/ruftf/index.html
> >
> > Brian
> > A16
> > embarrassed Oregon native
> >
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Bogdan Swider
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by Bogdan Swider » Fri Jan 03, 2003 5:46 pm
> It's even worse, the gov't or anyone else can put a GPS tracker on your
> vehicle without your knowledge quite easily.
>
> Conall
>
And to take it a step further......They could program it to pick
up the scent of certain burning herbs. Of course that's something that
probably wouldn't concern you, Conall. But suppose it could bust you for
drinking hot cocoa with a floating marshmallow ??
Bogdan
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Conall O'Brien
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by Conall O'Brien » Fri Jan 03, 2003 6:05 pm
>From: "Bogdan Swider"
>To: ,DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com>,"Conall O'Brien"
>
>Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR tax my motorcycle miles
>Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:46:53 -0700
>
> > It's even worse, the gov't or anyone else can put a GPS tracker on your
> > vehicle without your knowledge quite easily.
> >
> > Conall
> >
> And to take it a step further......They could program it to pick
>up the scent of certain burning herbs. Of course that's something that
>probably wouldn't concern you, Conall. But suppose it could bust you for
>drinking hot cocoa with a floating marshmallow ??
>
> Bogdan
That's why I have a purpose built KLR with a built-in vaporizer developed by
the top secret Skunk works project in the Santa Cruz Mtns. Ahh.... homeland
security.
Conall -" I don't want a pickle, I just want to ride my motorsickle."
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monahanwb
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by monahanwb » Fri Jan 03, 2003 6:29 pm
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Conall O'Brien"
wrote:
>
> It's even worse, the gov't or anyone else can put a GPS tracker on
your
> vehicle without your knowledge quite easily.
Makes me wonder just how interested they would be in my daily trips
to the beer section of the grocery store, then home or over to some
lady's house. The person doing the surveillance would probably fall
asleep following me around.
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Bogdan Swider
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by Bogdan Swider » Fri Jan 03, 2003 6:36 pm
> Makes me wonder just how interested they would be in my daily trips
> to the beer section of the grocery store, then home or over to some
> lady's house. The person doing the surveillance would probably fall
> asleep following me around.
>
Your view of human nature is benign. The person viewing what you
consider boring would probably be some pervert that would get off in some
kinky way on what you do. He's sharing a...my God !! a 24 oz malt liquor
with...a...woman !!!
Bogdan, who's big brother is an only child, I hope
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Anthony Verno
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by Anthony Verno » Fri Jan 03, 2003 7:38 pm
Russ,
I went with the Pirelli MT21's on my 250. I was told by a local shop that
the 130/140's wouldn't fit. If you look at the chain guard, that's where
you'll have the clearance problem with the larger tires. I guess you
could butcher up the guard to make 'em fit, but that's not me. The MT21's
do real well in the dirt and I haven't had any problems with them on the
street, although I'm not real aggressive with them.
Hope this helps. Have fun and ride safe. Anthony
Message: 22
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 17:03:16 -0500
From: "Russell D. Stephan"
Subject: KLR250 Other tire sizes.
Took the baby Kaw out for a New Year's ride on Jan 1. Since it has been
raining here for the last week or so it was quite the mud bath. I relate
it to
riding in four inches of Vaseline on top of a wet sponge, had fun none
the
less. I think hosing off the bike took longer than the length of the
ride.
If I'm going to be doing any trail riding this spring the bike will need
more
dirt/mud focused tires until the ground dries up for summer. Most dirt
bikes seem to have 18 inch rims and there is a limited choice of 17"
tires.
I'm curious if anyone has any baby Kaw experience with the maximum
width the small KLR will accept in the rear? Stock size calls for a
120mm
or English equivalent of 4.60" Will the machine tolerate a 130mm? A
140mm?
Russell D. Stephan
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