carb ideas

[Jdfsau3@aol.com]

$20/$25? Try $70 to $78 an hour in the San Francisco area. Even at these rates the mechancs are lousy! John F. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Dan Oaks]

racing43rd@... wrote: . . . Aren't labor charges $20/$25 per hour in most shops? If that is correct we and the mechanics are

> being robbed. I've noticed some "freelance" motorcycle repair shops springing > up lately Labor is $12/$15 per hour and they have to be good or be gone since > their survival depends on the quality of their work. > > Ed > Windsor Ohio

**************** You must be joking! They're $95 per hour here in Paradise! -- bierdo

[Ron Hipkiss]

"Aren't labor charges $20/$25 per hour in most shops? " A&S BMW in Citrus Heights, CA has a shop rate in the neighborhood of $68.15/hour. Only paid for service once, and that was at the 600 mile initial service (lots of warranty work, though). Cpt. Ron Sacramento, CA

[Susan Moorhead]

Ed, If your figures are correct, then it is no wonder that these techs are underpaid. The average labor rate in any automotive shop is at least $40.00/hr and in some places it can be double that. The shop can only pay a certain percentage of the labor charged to the tech performing the labor on that job. That is business. Marshall '95 KLXC3

----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] MCN nklr > An obvious answer although it may not be the correct one is too many > mechanics and not enough jobs, supply and demand right? Perhaps we should all > start taking our bikes in for service eventually the wages will rise and > theoreticaly the level of competence will increase. Aren't labor charges > $20/$25 per hour in most shops? If that is correct we and the mechanics are > being robbed. I've noticed some "freelance" motorcycle repair shops springing > up lately Labor is $12/$15 per hour and they have to be good or be gone since > their survival depends on the quality of their work. > > Ed > Windsor Ohio > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >

[racing43rd@aol.com]

Let me get this straight. West coast labor is $60 to $75 per hour, the mechanics get $7 to $8 per hour. Seems a bit lopsided doesn't it? Ed Windsor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[racing43rd@aol.com]

What determines the percentage of labor the shop "can pay" the techs? Wouldfn't be the owners greed would it? I only mention this as a possibility since some fairly simple math tells me that if Labor is $65 per hour and the tech receives $8 per hour we have $57 per hour that is gross profit. The sales people would be paid through sales, the parts crew from the profit from parts, I assume the markup on parts is "keystone" or double the cost, so the gross profit there should be in excess of salaries although I am not familiar enough with the volume in that area to determine if it is sufficient. I would love to hear from a shop owner since I really am unsure of the numbers I am quoting Ed Windsor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Dan Oaks]

racing43rd@... wrote:

> What determines the percentage of labor the shop "can pay" the techs? > Wouldfn't be the owners greed would it? I only mention this as a possibility > since some fairly simple math tells me that if Labor is $65 per hour and the > tech receives $8 per hour we have $57 per hour that is gross profit. The > sales people would be paid through sales, the parts crew from the profit from > parts, I assume the markup on parts is "keystone" or double the cost, so the > gross profit there should be in excess of salaries although I am not familiar > enough with the volume in that area to determine if it is sufficient. > I would love to hear from a shop owner since I really am unsure of the > numbers I am quoting > > Ed > Windsor

I heartily agree that there is a gross discrepancy between $8/hour and $65/hour. I am not a cycle shop owner, but as a business owner, I can tell you without a doubt that the difference is not gross profit. An employee will cost twice the employees hourly rate or more when taxes and minimal benefits are included. Then you add the rent for the employees work space, cost of management and administration, and the employer's cut gets smaller and smaller. I have seen manufacturing organizations that charged several hundred dollars an hour for their $8/hour employees and still lost money on the deal. Not everyone has the brains or even common sense to run a business. The next downturn in the economy will quickly solve that problem for a short while. Not actually knowing the costs involved in a cycle shop, I would say that even if the ratio were close, most of us would happily pay another $10 per hour directly to the mechanic if it would make a difference in the end product. Unfortunately, the employer and government would probably want 80% of that, too. Then again, throwing extra money to an imbecile will allow him to be even more ineffective and arrogant. -- bierdo

[Ted Palmer]

Gary (gtx) wrote:

> anybody ever replace the float jet and seat in klr600bi carb,as you probably know by my monthly mails the carb keeps pouring petrol through the drain/overflow outlet,and a friend recomends the aforementioned cure.

My 600B1 flooded a few times when it was just a few years old, back around 1988/9. I changed the needle way back then and it has been ok ever since. I think the needle is rubber tipped so I probably didn't bother to change the seat (if the seat is in fact replacable). Mister_T Melbourne Australia