handlebars .... oh holy cow not again

[bill e goat]

> Uh... what are you doing that you are melting your jacket?

Well the devil made me do it the first time, the second time I did it on my own...actually the first time was a hot day and I took off my jacket to cool off while admiring the scenery, then I smelled it leaning against the muffler. The second time, last weekend, airing up the tires at a gas station, I smelled that smell again! The header pipe will burn off the plastic, so don't worry 'bout cleaning it up.

[Dana E Hager]

I have been using HotGrips, www.hotgrips.com . These are a complete grip and include all wire, switch (go with the small dodad switch option) and resistor. They are slightly larger in diameter and kind of hard like the OEM grips. Install time is around 3 hours, maybe more if you want to add a relay. Also get the glue ($2) from them as it was hard to find a sutable type locally. I personally like them, very, very warm (too warm to wear with no gloves on HI) and I like the larger diameter, I will live with the hardness for really warm hands anytime! If you are doing mostly dirt and rough stuff you may want to stick with the EE inserts and ProGel Grips. I mostly ride on the road except when touring. 32 F in Eastern Pa this morning, Hot grips, AeroStitch electric vest and happier than a man should be on his way to work... If interested I can post pics.

[Rich Kickbush]

Jim Clark wrote:

> > The D jacket is still stiff despite two washings and tumbling it > > with tennis shoes in the dryer. I work up a sweat just getting the > > thing on and adjusting it. Why this jacket has the following it > > does baffles me. > > > > I've worn my Darien about 20 times, never washed it, feels great. I > cannot imagine a better motorcycling jacket for me. In 100 degree > weather, it is comfortable (as long as I am moving) with all the > vents open, and the sleeve cuffs unzipped. Of course, it's too hot > for off-road riding, but I sweat with just a jersey on off-road. I > wear a long-sleeved thermal underwear top under the Darien. I added > a thicker shirt, and rode for an hour in the mountains last week > where it was 40-45 degrees, and felt fine.

methinks Gino would be more forgiving of his new jacket's idiocyncracies if he wasn't aware the hundreds of Beemer riders wearing them also... ;>} FWIW, I set the belt when I first bought it and never adjust it - goes on and off in a second. Stiffness of the fabric never bothered me - I've got the back protector in and it almost stands up by itself. Rich

[Peter Berghs]

I'll second that comment, I"ve ridden in some below freezing weather and the pants have kept me comfortable, not real toasty but liveable. The Kili jacket with liner is great for keeping warm too. Peter B "Scherer, Michael" wrote:

> > I got a new pair of First Gear H-T pants and wore them yesterday and today. > Temp was in the mid thirties both mornings and they felt great. No more > knee ache. They weren't too warm yesterday afternoon when the temp was in > the sixties. I need a solution for my hands soon. Gloves or grips? > > >Starting to get cool enough that the > >knees feel it. > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

[Dan Paulsen]

I need a solution for my hands soon. Gloves or grips? My solution with more than one bike.. electric gloves (socks, jacket) and wire each bike. hmmnn... toasty. Works for me :+) Dan Paulsen Graham WA

[Dan Paulsen]

> I have used both gloves and grips heaters. > > The gloves require you string wires through your sleeves every time > you put your jacket on. For this trouble, you get warmth around

your

> entire hand.

More .02 I would add that if you plan on using an electric jacket (which I use more often than the electric gloves) It is a simple plug in to the sleeves for the gloves. Confession: I have not used the grip heaters. Dan Paulsen Graham WA

[Jim Hyman]

Dan, Do you know where I can by a 12 volt heated jock strap? The local love shops just look at me kinda weird. Professor +++++++++++++++++ original message:

>> I need a solution for my hands soon. Gloves or grips?

Dan responded:

> My solution with more than one bike.. electric gloves > (socks, jacket) and wire each bike. hmmnn... toasty. > Works for me :+) > > Dan Paulsen > Graham WA

[e. rhoads]

> > I need a solution for my hands soon. Gloves or > grips? >

====== Do you only need occasional warmth? If so, you might want to consider the chemical type warmers. I bought samples at REI and have only started to fool around with them. The two I have are the toe warmer and the mini hand warmer. The toe warmer ingredients are iron, water, activated carbon and salt. The hand warmer uses iron, water, cellulose, vermiculite, activated carbon and salt. There's specific instructions for using them and they are designed for the oxygen levels found in the specified locations. The hand warmer is rated for 7+ hours @ minium temp. 104deg. with avg.temp. 135deg, and max temp. 166deg. when used correctly. For enclosed area such as pocket. The toe warmer is rated for 6+ hours @ 100deg. avg. temp. and max. of 107deg. The toe warmer has adhesive to help stick it to the underside of your sock. I paid $1.80 for the pair of toe warmers, don't remember what the hand warmers were but it's about the same price. Package life appears to be something over 2 years. Because they're so thin, I think I'll try the toe warmers in my gloves and see what happens. Actually the directions say not to put them in contact with skin but what the heck. The temperature looks tightly controlled so I shouldn't get thermal runaway, no burns or meltdowns I think. They come in a nice strong package. I'll see what happens next chance I get. eric

[Mark Wilson]

Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Keeping warm...

> Dan, Do you know where I can by a 12 volt heated jock strap? > The local love shops just look at me kinda weird. > > Professor > > +++++++++++++++++

You can buy some toe warmers from REI, and chunk a few down your britches.... Maybe that will work. And you'll get that warm fuzzy feeling the tree huggers get too. Because REI donates some of their profit to help close down the trails we all love to ride on. MotorMark

[k650dsn@aol.com]

I'm beginning to think the Hot Grips are the way to go. The grip heaters from Enduro are nice, but not very effective when the temps dip into the mid 20's like this morning. The problem is the left side element has to heat a frigid handle bar too. The Hot Grips bury their element in the rubber grip, thus insulating it from the cold handle bar. From what I have seen, the Hot Grips are not universal, they have to cut the end off for you if you have Rally Pro or similar hand guards and the have to be the correct length. Gino

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, Dana E Hager wrote: > I have been using HotGrips, www.hotgrips.com . These are a complete grip > and include all wire, switch (go with the small dodad switch option) and > resistor. They are slightly larger in diameter and kind of hard like the > OEM grips. Install time is around 3 hours, maybe more if you want to add > a relay. Also get the glue ($2) from them as it was hard to find a > sutable type locally. > > I personally like them, very, very warm (too warm to wear with no gloves > on HI) and I like the larger diameter, I will live with the hardness for > really warm hands anytime! If you are doing mostly dirt and rough stuff > you may want to stick with the EE inserts and ProGel Grips. I mostly > ride on the road except when touring. > > 32 F in Eastern Pa this morning, Hot grips, AeroStitch electric vest and > happier than a man should be on his way to work... > > If interested I can post pics.