missed shifts

[Ted Palmer]

Tom Simpson wrote: [...]

> Ted Palmer wrote:

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> > I never got a warp out of it, but did get some bluing on the disc. > > Isn't the 600 a fair bit lighter than a 650? That may be an issue.

Fade is fade, whether from boiling fluid or pads giving up. Either way, the stock disc doesn't have much in the way of heat sink mass. At least the 650 has a disc rear brake which would cool faster than the drum on the 600, even if the little disc might fade as fast. I lost count of how many laps I did on that particular race track (Calder Park for the Melbourne-aware) but I got used to the fade after a couple of corner cutting episodes where I came to appreciate the KLR grasstracking abilty. In case anyone is interested I was using either stock pads or maybe Dunlopads. I suppose that anytime you blue a stainless disc you are at risk of warping it. Maybe 600 discs were made of better material back in 1985. Mister_T

[Mark]

At 1:12 PM +0000 9/19/00, * Deks* wrote:

>Tom, >It seems you got too much money to spend. >The KLR 650 C series has got the same fork, disc and caliper as the KLE 500. >The disc is 2cm larger and 1 to 1.5 mm wider than our disc. The fork is >40-41mm, while ours and Tengai forks are 37-38mm. The caliper of the KLE500 >and KLR650C is not made for the disc KLR650A and Tengai bikes have, so why >put it there? The Tengai has the same caliper as the KLR650A, but different >than the KLR650C and KLE500. >Oh, almost forgot: our bikes (KLR650A and Tengai) brake better than KLR650 >and KLE500 Kawas even though the two latter have bigger&wider discs and >bigger calipers.

In the U.S., the Tengai has a 20mm larger disc than the 650A model and also has a larger, twin-piston caliper. The Tengai's forks, while 38mm, have ~0.75mm thicker walls than the forks on the 650A. The braking on the Tengai is noticeably better, but I find the braking on the 650A models to be good enough with a just stainless steel brake line upgrade, unless you're hauling a boat behind your bike. Mark B2 (a.k.a. KL650B2 Tengai) A2 (with Tengai front end)

[Jim Jackson]

Tom's post got me thinking about better brakes. We know that a MAPP large diameter brake will cost $400.00. I have been told by my dealership that if I wanted to grind the old rotor I couldn't, I'd have to replace it. $350.00 new. Tom has a friend with a great braking bike with FJ600 parts. So I call a local bike salvage yard and they have 3 FJ600's. How much for a good rotor and caliper? $120.00!!! Now if this will really work I will be happy to pay for shipping charges to get the parts there if someone with their own KLR-A is willing to fabricate in true machinist fashion a mounting bracket and some means of centering the new mounting holes for the rotor. If it works, that person could sell it as a kit. Better would be a good sport bike rotor/caliper where the rotor mounting did not need to be redrilled but that's probably not going to happen. It would be nice to be able to get a replacement rotor for less than a hundred bucks and have it better than the stock one. Any problems with this idea? I'm heading to the salvage yard some time soon with an old rotor for size-comparison purposes. What would be ideal for the KLR? The bigger the better? Are most of them cross-drilled or solid? So... any takers? Respond off-list and we'll arrange something. Thanks, Jim Jackson II A13 "Gonzo" South Carolina

> >I had a friend who had fitted a caliper off of a FJ600 to his KLR and >warped the every-living heck out of his rotor in short order. He then >fitted a rotor off of the same wrecked FJ and a home-made adapter >bracket to get enough standoff. Now *that* is a KLR that stops. > > >-Tom >'96 KLR 650 >

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[Stuart Mumford]

>As my Y2KLR has broken, now with 3500 KM, it seems to miss shifts and find

multiple false neutrals all the time, only in the >first three gears generally, but it is a total pain in the ass. Any thoughts? Hey John, check your gearshift lever for interference / being bent. Have you installed a bash plate? A lot of people hit their gearshift levers on one of the brackets. CA Stu