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[daveygwhiz]

Hi y'all, Before I take the tank off to check the turn signal relay, I'll describe the situation, what I've checked so far, and hopefully someone with more knowledge than me can send me in the right direction. The other day my turn signals would flash maybe once then quit, along with a buzz sound.  The next day after stopping for gas then trying to start up, every light and gauge stopped working.  I had to bump start down the hill it to get home. Both fuses under the seat are good.  The battery has 12.6 volts.  The ground is good.  Before I empty the tank and check the relay, please tell if there's other things to check first. Thanks! Dave

[RobertWichert]

I don't know why the turn signal relay would kill all the power. Might be a major power supply wire broken or worn to drop voltage to the cluster. Just guessing, but I'd pull of the tank. Good luck! Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 11/14/2013 10:25 AM, foolstools@... wrote:

Hi y'all, Before I take the tank off to check the turn signal relay, I'll describe the situation, what I've checked so far, and hopefully someone with more knowledge than me can send me in the right direction. The other day my turn signals would flash maybe once then quit, along with a buzz sound. The next day after stopping for gas then trying to start up, every light and gauge stopped working. I had to bump start down the hill it to get home. Both fuses under the seat are good. The battery has 12.6 volts. The ground is good. Before I empty the tank and check the relay, please tell if there's other things to check first. Thanks! Dave

[Jeff Saline]

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[daveygwhiz]

Problem solved.  Once I had lunch and went back to the bike, I realized the starter switch is not the ignition switch.....duh......and found a multi-wire plug had loosened from its mate. Simple. The starter assembly mounting screw can wait, but that question still stands. How to get that buggered screw out? PS: It sure takes a long time for a message to post.  

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Dave <><><><><><><> <><><><><><>>   Dave,   How about sharing the year of the bike?  Gen I and Gen II electrics are different.   I'll guess you have a Gen I since you said both fuses under the seat are good and you were able to bump start the bike.   My first question is how do you know they are good?  Did you test with a test light or multimeter for power on both sides of the fuses?   I'll suggest you don't have to empty the tank to remove it.  It is a bit heavier when full but should still be manageable.   I'd probably take a good look at connections for the ignition switch if I was working on this issue.  But I think I'd really suspect the 20 amp main fuse since that feeds all the electrics and nothing worked.   Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . . . ____________________________________________________________ [b]Do THIS before eating carbs (every time)[/b] 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage info.fixyourbloodsugar.com

[RobertWichert]

By "buggered" do you mean stripped threads or stripped head or something else? Stripped threads or stripped female threads in the part can be solved by a larger screw size self-tapping screw, or heli-coil, or jamming something in the hole; even epoxy if you're brave. If you mean stripped head, vice grips are a pretty good first shot. Followed by drills, left handed drills, easy-outs, weld rod, cutting torches and new bikes. But the needle nose vice grips will probably work. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 11/15/2013 1:20 PM, foolstools@... wrote:

Problem solved. Once I had lunch and went back to the bike, I realized the starter switch is not the ignition switch.....duh......and found a multi-wire plug had loosened from its mate. Simple. The starter assembly mounting screw can wait, but that question still stands. How to get that buggered screw out? PS: It sure takes a long time for a message to post. ---In dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com, salinej1@... wrote: On 14 Nov 2013 10:25:08 -0800 writes: Hi y'all, Before I take the tank off to check the turn signal relay, I'll describe the situation, what I've checked so far, and hopefully someone with more knowledge than me can send me in the right direction. The other day my turn signals would flash maybe once then quit, along with a buzz sound. The next day after stopping for gas then trying to start up, every light and gauge stopped working. I had to bump start down the hill it to get home. Both fuses under the seat are good. The battery has 12.6 volts. The ground is good. Before I empty the tank and check the relay, please tell if there's other things to check first. Thanks! Dave <><><><><><><> <><><><><><>> Dave, How about sharing the year of the bike? Gen I and Gen II electrics are different. I'll guess you have a Gen I since you said both fuses under the seat are good and you were able to bump start the bike. My first question is how do you know they are good? Did you test with a test light or multimeter for power on both sides of the fuses? I'll suggest you don't have to empty the tank to remove it. It is a bit heavier when full but should still be manageable. I'd probably take a good look at connections for the ignition switch if I was working on this issue. But I think I'd really suspect the 20 amp main fuse since that feeds all the electrics and nothing worked. Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . . . ____________________________________________________________ [b]Do THIS before eating carbs (every time)[/b] 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage info.fixyourbloodsugar.com

[Ian Francisco]

Nope, that was DID X-ring or equivalent mid range chain $75-80 iirc. JT sprocket on the front. I hear OE is the best rear but pricey.

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Scott Mattern wrote: Always go with new sprockets when you replace a chain, unless you use a $15.00 chain that is.... On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Ian Francisco wrote: Just turned over 51,000 miles on the KLR650. I'm reasonably sure I've only purchased one set of chain and sprockets for this bike so that means that I've put 26,000 miles on this set! No wonder it's getting a little stiff and kinky. The sprockets look like new. Less than 200 miles done on dirt and nothing much besides WD-40 used on the chain. I suppose I won't be a cheapskate & will go ahead and buy new sprockets to go with the new chain.

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