not as serious a question nklr

[Jeffrey L. Walker]

> > > To me, this opens up a whole new can of worms. Does this mean, that if

you

> > use slime, that you have to buy new tubes every time you purchase new > tires? > > If so, then what about the tubes that are being sold pre-slimed? Sounds > like > > we could use know how from the insiders, cuz I personally never thought

of

> > that aspect. If we can't reuse slimed tubes, then we should not purchase > > pre-slimed tubes unless we are purchasing a tire as well. Plus, the cost > of > > tires just went up for those of us that do use the slime. Anyone know > where > > to get the nitty gritty answers to this intriguing question? > > > > Jim Sherlock > > I bought the moose pre slimed tube. And when I mounted the tire and filled > it with air, it was kinda laying flat on my workbench. And it would blow > slime back out the valve like that. So I did what Jeff said. I put the

wheel

> back on the bike, rotated the wheel to got the valve stem in the 10 -2 > oclock position. Let it sit for a few minutes, and now I can check the

tire

> pressure without blowing slime. > So, to reuse a slimed tube, just let the air out like that, and the slime > will be settled in the bottom of the tire. >

When you are mounting new tires, you should get new tubes anyway. Its just good practice. I guess that you could recycle the slime out of your old tube if you were so inclined, it never occurred to me. Jeff

[Weaver, Mark]

i would get new tubes about once a year or so. i'm already on my 3rd rear tire this year, and i expect to finish it off before too long. i'll be danged if i'm going to waste good money on tubes every 3 months. that could buy a non-trivial quantity of beer. mw

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey L. Walker [mailto:jlwalk@...] > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:02 PM > To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com; Mark Wilson > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Slime > > > > > > > > To me, this opens up a whole new can of worms. Does this > mean, that if > you > > > use slime, that you have to buy new tubes every time you > purchase new > > tires? > > > If so, then what about the tubes that are being sold > pre-slimed? Sounds > > like > > > we could use know how from the insiders, cuz I personally > never thought > of > > > that aspect. If we can't reuse slimed tubes, then we > should not purchase > > > pre-slimed tubes unless we are purchasing a tire as well. > Plus, the cost > > of > > > tires just went up for those of us that do use the slime. > Anyone know > > where > > > to get the nitty gritty answers to this intriguing question? > > > > > > Jim Sherlock > > > > I bought the moose pre slimed tube. And when I mounted the > tire and filled > > it with air, it was kinda laying flat on my workbench. And > it would blow > > slime back out the valve like that. So I did what Jeff > said. I put the > wheel > > back on the bike, rotated the wheel to got the valve stem > in the 10 -2 > > oclock position. Let it sit for a few minutes, and now I > can check the > tire > > pressure without blowing slime. > > So, to reuse a slimed tube, just let the air out like that, > and the slime > > will be settled in the bottom of the tire. > > > > When you are mounting new tires, you should get new tubes > anyway. Its just > good practice. I guess that you could recycle the slime out > of your old > tube if you were so inclined, it never occurred to me. > > Jeff > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > Let Internet Call Manager notify you of phone calls while you're surf! > Never feel rushed to get off-line again. Includes Caller ID and Web > voicemail. And only $5 per month. Start your FREE trial today! > http://click.egroups.com/1/6080/6/_/911801/_/962304941/ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > >

[PRBKLR@cs.com]

What kind of riding do you do to wear out your rear tire so quickly? Are you putting that many miles in, or are you just really hard on the tires? Just curious. I've had my KLR for over 1 year, and have 3,700 miles on it. The rear (stock) tire is finally looking like it getting down to the minimum. Most of my riding is on the street, with some off road. It usually ends up being more miles to get to the off road areas than I actually get in on the off road areas, if that makes sense. "Weaver, Mark" wrote:

>

i'm already on my 3rd rear

> tire this year, and i expect to finish it off before too long. > mw

[Tom Myers]

>When you are mounting new tires, you should get new tubes anyway. Its just >good practice. I guess that you could recycle the slime out of your old >tube if you were so inclined, it never occurred to me.

There are certain benefits (and costs) to taking the conservative route, but replacing the tube each time is certainly not required. If the tube passes inspection, I use it in the new tire. I've been doing this for .......30 years. Developing the ability to *inspect a tube* is "good practice". Tom (always preaching for self sufficiency!!!) -- +-------------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products | 701 34th Ave | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | | Design/Manufacture of Motorcycling Accessories | website: http://www.cycoactive.com/mc | e-mail: moto@... | tel (206) 323-2349 fax (206) 325-6016 +-------------------------------------------+

[Jeffrey L. Walker]

> There are certain benefits (and costs) to taking the conservative > route, but replacing the tube each time is certainly not required. > If the tube passes inspection, I use it in the new tire. I've been > doing this for .......30 years. > > Developing the ability to *inspect a tube* is "good practice". >

What exactly do you inspect for (other than obvious cracking and damage) How do you know if the tube rubber has been over-stressed? On my bicycle tubes, I would blow them up and look for bulges, can you do that on a motorcycle tube too? I used to re-use my tubes too, until I had one blow out on the road on a street bike. Never had a problem in the dirt, but high speed highway (re)use of tubes makes me a little nervous. Jeff

[Mark]

At 8:14 PM -0700 6/29/2000, Jeffrey L. Walker wrote:

> > There are certain benefits (and costs) to taking the conservative > > route, but replacing the tube each time is certainly not required. > > If the tube passes inspection, I use it in the new tire. I've been > > doing this for .......30 years. > > > > Developing the ability to *inspect a tube* is "good practice". > > > >What exactly do you inspect for (other than obvious cracking and damage) >How do you know if the tube rubber has been over-stressed? On my bicycle >tubes, I would blow them up and look for bulges, can you do that on a >motorcycle tube too? > >I used to re-use my tubes too, until I had one blow out on the road on a >street bike. Never had a problem in the dirt, but high speed highway

(re)use of tubes makes me a little nervous. Yes, you inflate them a bit and inspect visually as well as by feeling the surface. If conditions permit, I'll also immerse in water to look for tiny pinholes and to rinse any crud off the tube and then pat dry with a clean towel. I have yet to install a new tube in either of my KLR's which both still have the tubes that they came with when I bought the bikes (over 3 1/2 years ago for the Tengai and over 1 1/2 years ago on the '88). The Tengai is running standard cheapo Cheng-Shin tubes and the A2 has slimed Metzeler heavy-duty tubes. Mark B2 A2

[DAHLHEIMER PETER]

i agree, by the way, that apprehension towards buying and riding a bike at all is normal and probably aids in self-preservation. i've got an old pair of gripsters which are still good and i'm going to (a little reluctantly) put them back on the klr in exchange for the current DOT knobbies. i haven't done this on "street" tires myself yet, but i have heard mention (by fred) of a red dot that you're supposed to put opposite(?) the valve stem, since it's the heaviest(?) part of the tire, so it can be balanced more easily. i don't see that dot on either tire. where is it? could it have worn/faded off? thanks in advance. _pete