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[Mark]

At 4:08 PM +0000 6/22/2000, Brad Davis wrote:

>Jeez, I am just about ready to buy an A9/2600 miles. Is this problem >statistically significant or is it random?

I wouldn't sweat it. I think KGrife's bike had things brewing if it was consuming so much oil under 15K miles which led to an accelerated demise. However, you can make a big deal out of it to try to move the seller down on the price. Mark B2 A2

[Krgrife@aol.com]

In a message dated 6/22/00 11:26:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mjv2@... writes: << I wouldn't sweat it. I think KGrife's bike had things brewing if it was consuming so much oil under 15K miles which led to an accelerated demise. >> The oil consumption and balancer chain problems are completely separate issues, if you can explain to me how bad rings can cause the balancer mechanism to fail I would be very interested. Kurt G

[ephilride@aol.com]

Krgrife@... writes:

> The oil consumption and balancer chain problems are completely separate > issues, if you can explain to me how bad rings can cause the balancer > mechanism to fail I would be very interested. > Kurt G

Could it be that the your bike has spent most of the 15K miles in lower gears, at higher revs, been subjected to jack rabbit starts where you dump the clutch at 9K and then proceeded to ride on the rear wheel while simultaneously up shifting as you ride into the sunset? You see, when the KLR is ridden between 37 and 89 degrees above horizontal, cylinder lubrication and cam chain life could be connected and slightly compromised................ Just a thought ;~`) Knot

[Krgrife@aol.com]

In a message dated 6/22/00 2:16:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ephilride@... writes: << Could it be that the your bike has spent most of the 15K miles in lower gears, at higher revs, been subjected to jack rabbit starts where you dump the clutch at 9K and then proceeded to ride on the rear wheel while simultaneously up shifting as you ride into the sunset? You see, when the KLR is ridden between 37 and 89 degrees above horizontal, cylinder lubrication and cam chain life could be connected and slightly compromised................ Just a thought ;~`) >> My riding buddies would get a chuckle out of that one, my riding style is rather sedate, perhaps as befits a 56 year old rider. I rarely go above 6/6500 rpm on the KLR because power wise there isn't much point. I use 5500 rpm as my highway upper limit for distance riding. If I do a wheelie it is by accident. Kurt G.

[Mark]

At 5:15 PM -0400 6/22/2000, ephilride@... wrote:

>Krgrife@... writes: > >> The oil consumption and balancer chain problems are completely separate >> issues, if you can explain to me how bad rings can cause the balancer >> mechanism to fail I would be very interested. >> Kurt G > >Could it be that the your bike has spent most of the 15K miles in lower >gears, at higher revs, been subjected to jack rabbit starts where you dump >the clutch at 9K and then proceeded to ride on the rear wheel while >simultaneously up shifting as you ride into the sunset? You see, when the >KLR is ridden between 37 and 89 degrees above horizontal, cylinder >lubrication and cam chain life could be connected and slightly >compromised................ Just a thought ;~`) >Knot

Bad rings don't mean that's the only thing that's worn. My thought was that the oil was neglected by a previous owner at some point or that abrasive particles entered the crankcase and were allowed to circulate for long periods therefore wearing the entire engine. Mark B2 A2

[Krgrife@aol.com]

In a message dated 6/22/00 4:24:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mjv2@... writes: << Bad rings don't mean that's the only thing that's worn. My thought was that the oil was neglected by a previous owner at some point or that abrasive particles entered the crankcase and were allowed to circulate for long periods therefore wearing the entire engine. >> No, this is a simple matter. The adjuster bolt and spring system on the early KLR's was badly designed. We can argue this forever but there is a reason that Kawi upgraded those parts. My original post was simply to describe what I found when I took my engine apart. I saw the same thing in my buddy's engine and Elden has several more that are the same. When you actually look at 5 or 6 adjuster arms that have been distorted in the same way because of the lack of a small washer in the original design you get a different perspective. I'm not going to go any further with this thread. I did my original post as I stated then because I feel its a safety issue and I just wanted to pass on my experience in the hope of saving others from having what happened to me happen to them. Kurt G.

[Kurt Simpson]

> different perspective. I'm not going to go any further with this thread.

I

> did my original post as I stated then because I feel its a safety issue

and I

> just wanted to pass on my experience in the hope of saving others from

having

> what happened to me happen to them. > Kurt G.

I think you're right with this decision Kurt. You're doing a service for the people that have been listening...I spoke with Elden yesterday and encouraged him on the project and said that Dual Sport News would like to do an article on your work. Is Vey de la Cruz doing the engine work? Kurt Simpson

[Bogdan Swider]

> I'm not going to go any further with this thread. I > did my original post as I stated then because I feel its a safety issue > and I > just wanted to pass on my experience in the hope of saving others from > having > what happened to me happen to them. > Kurt G. >

I certainly hope this doesn't mean you won't keep us posted about how the job is progressing. Bogdan, who since he's going to Guatemala in August (alone as usual, by choice) and will be in Canada much of July......would..try to pick up a balancer chain North of the border and feel better going South....if...he had the knowledge to do the job.

[Skip Faulkner]

> > I'm not going to go any further with this thread. I > > did my original post as I stated then because I feel its a safety issue > > and I > > just wanted to pass on my experience in the hope of saving others from > > having > > what happened to me happen to them. > > Kurt G. > >

Kurt, it was very appropriate and informative, not to mention, worth listening to and an eye opener. This is the kind of info we need to keep up on. Just because I`m set in my ways and hard headed doesn`t mean others are so resistant to good advice. Keep it up. Skip

[Conall O'Brien]

>From: "Skip Faulkner" >To: "'KLR List'" DSN_klr650@egroups.com> >Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] KLR High mileage worries, Rear Wheel Alignment >Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 23:47:52 -0600 > > > > I'm not going to go any further with this thread. I > > > did my original post as I stated then because I feel its a safety >issue > > > and I > > > just wanted to pass on my experience in the hope of saving others from > > > having > > > what happened to me happen to them. > > > Kurt G. > > > > > >Kurt, it was very appropriate and informative, not to mention, worth >listening to and an eye opener. This is the kind of info we need to keep up >on. Just because I`m set in my ways and hard headed doesn`t mean others are >so resistant to good advice. Keep it up. > >Skip >

Kurt,listers, Same here, I also am thankful for Kurt Grife's info. Keep it coming and I may have something to add to the discussion in the next month or so. Conall 81,900 miles Balancer parts on order ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com