[dsn_klr650] mid-ohio, lottsa questions nklr

[rusig1@aol.com]

My suggestion would be to get him a 4 stroke like a Z50 or a XR70. The Hondas seem basically indestructible and require very little maintenance. I bought my 7 year old a Z50 this year and its perfect for him. I kinda figured that I would get him the smaller bike for his first year of riding then upgrade him next year or when he's ready for more power and gears. I priced the used market and it seems that the beginner bikes seem to hold there value very well so come upgrade time you will be out little or nothing on the original purchase. Dave

[Mark]

At 10:12 AM -0600 6/17/2000, Kurt Simpson wrote:

>So, what are the list's recommendations for a bike for a young boy who is >probably about to hit a growth spurt? Does anyone else have my problem with >keeping 2 strokes running well?

My son's first bike was a JR50 and is very reliable; my daughter will be learning on it next. John has sice moved up to a KTM sxr50. This bike is a real performer, and he's tearing up the yard nicely. However, it's a tad finicky. I found that leaner is better and went way down in the jet size. Also, I can only run 100% synthetic oil in it or it will foul the plug in a couple hours of running. A hotter plug can help too, but I'd never go more than one step hotter in the range. John has an old xr75 on deck which is a 4-stroke. Mark B2 A2

[Joe]

----- Original Message ----- From: Kurt Simpson To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 11:12 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] small people's bike..nklr > My youngest son, Ian, is seven and sobbed big crocodile tears when we packed > and left for Moab with his big brother. He says, "I hate being the > youngest." He wants a bike to start learning to ride on. SNIP > > So, what are the list's recommendations for a bike for a young boy who is > probably about to hit a growth spurt? Does anyone else have my problem with > keeping 2 strokes running well? > > Kurt Kirt, my first 2 sons learned on a Suzuki DR(?) 100 dirt bike and my last is on a Honda XL100 both 4 strokers and indestructable. If buying used look very close for lack of maintance as this causes more headaches then a well-maintained bike that is ridden hard. Good used small bikes hold high resale but if you're patient good deals will come your way. Never had any luck finding them at dealers as they have long waiting list of people and get top dollar. Pass the word to all your riding buddies and don't be surprised if one of them finds one for you. In my experience all bikers love to help each other in this reguard. I think it has something to do with getting to look but not having to spend the money! Good Luck, Joe Alberth

[Toby Lampson]

Kurt- Hmmm. Small peoples bikes....... On one hand, its likely the son will only ever rarely see two strokes in his time, on the other hand, early to mid 70's two strokes weren't so temperamental, they were more fun, just as dependable, and more desireable than four strokes in their time, with just as much torque, and more zip. Since two strokes fire twice as often as four strokes the should be easier to start, but for the same reason the top ends don't last as long. When Yamaha was no. 1, they didn't mix gas, nor did they have reed valves......they had autolube(mixing gas automatically), and they had dual shock(an essential for demanding the rider to learn good technique. The early Yamaha Mini Enduros(50cc, and 80cc) were wonderful. Today I've seen em' for used for $250. Like the DT/CT series, they started every first kick, had great low end, got good mileage, and mixed oil n' gas for you. The Kaws/ Suz's in that time ran, but had overheat problems. The Honda 50cc/70cc were 4 stroke and bullet proof. Don't get a 90cc, handling quirks. As two strokers entered the 80's with single shocks, and required you mix, they got quirky, with shorter power bands, mx trannies, and went to shit. Slide Joe wrote:

> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kurt Simpson > To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 11:12 AM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] small people's bike..nklr > > > My youngest son, Ian, is seven and sobbed big crocodile tears when we > packed > > and left for Moab with his big brother. He says, "I hate being the > > youngest." He wants a bike to start learning to ride on. > > SNIP > > > > So, what are the list's recommendations for a bike for a young boy who is > > probably about to hit a growth spurt? Does anyone else have my problem > with > > keeping 2 strokes running well? > > > > Kurt > > Kirt, my first 2 sons learned on a Suzuki DR(?) 100 dirt > bike and my last is on a Honda XL100 both 4 strokers and indestructable. If > buying used look very close for lack of maintance as this causes more > headaches then a well-maintained bike that is ridden hard. Good used small > bikes hold high resale but if you're patient good deals will come your way. > Never had any luck finding them at dealers as they have long waiting list of > people and get top dollar. Pass the word to all your riding buddies and > don't be surprised if one of them finds one for you. In my experience all > bikers love to help each other in this reguard. I think it has something to > do with getting to look but not having to spend the money! Good Luck, > Joe Alberth > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Free, Unlimited Calls Anywhere! > Visit Firetalk.com - click below. > http://click.egroups.com/1/5479/5/_/911801/_/961262305/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

[Scherer, Michael]

I may make the trip from PGH but sort of unlikley. If I do I will be traveling west on 30. Lets try to touch base closer to the event. We had two great days there last year. The Haydens really put on a show. Biker Mike -----Original Message----- From: Mark McCoy [mailto:Mark.McCoy@...] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 3:55 PM To: Ralph E. Hanson Cc: DSN_klr650@egroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Mid-Ohio, Lottsa questions nklr I am currently planning to be there but just might ride up for the day. I might also try to go to Michigan to the BMWMOA rally and just come back through to MidOH. Keep me posted on plans. Mark McCoy "Ralph E. Hanson" wrote:

> Collective, > > I'm in the process of getting ready for my first significant trip on the > KLR: Going to the Superbike races at Mid-Ohio in July. > > First of all, is anyone else on the list planning on going? I'll

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