[dsn_klr650] nklr - hsc cl-12 and lt12, what is the catch!

[Peter Warmerdam]

 

[b]-----Original Message-----[/b] [b]From: [/b]Peter Warmerdam [b]To: [/b]DSN klr650@egroups.com klr650@egroups.com> [b]Date: [/b]Saturday, June 10, 2000 10:51 PM [b]Subject: [/b]new to group,bike decision made! hello again.thank-you for replies.this comunicating back and forth on the internet is new for me,so here we go. I made my decision on my bike today. I didnt deal at Hole Shot D.J. Iwas dealing at CLearbrook Motorsports. I bought my last klr at Hole Shot. They have a Y2K model in blue/green/99, Today I ended up taking their last 99 instead,because he came down in price 4999.99  The green Y2K was 6200.00 , the Y2K bl/gr 5350.00 I figured I'd save a buck and chose the 99. I'm HAPPY!   I'll be bringing the klr to Idaho. Can't wait. See you there.   Hey Arne, who's Agnes?    The bl/green is in!   Thank's, looking foward to tuesday!(pick up bike)      

[Tom Simpson]

Jeff Walker wrote:

> > > > Brad Davis wrote: > > > > Now on to my question . I had thought I had decided on a > > > Shoei RF- > > > 800 until I went to my local shop and tried on a HSC CL-12. It fit > > > great and seemed high quality to my inexperienced eye. I know some of > > > the other listers have HSC helmets and are satisfied with them. Well, > > > what is the catch? The CL-12 is $140 and the RF-800 is $220 (from > > > www.helmet.shop). If it is only that HSC has lower advertising costs > > > and chooses to pass them on to the consumer, please let me know, I > > > rather get the HSC and save some $$$. Both helmets are Snell95/DOT > > > rated so I am really curious about what the differences may be that > > > would justify the 70% greater cost. Isn't it true that the HSC is > > > built in Korea and the Shoei in the USA? I don't know for sure > > > but > > > possibly the difference is due to labor costs. > > > > You mean HJC, right? > > > > I dont know. My dealer says that "some people have Shoei heads and > some > > people have Arai heads". As it turns out, my XXXL bucket of a head is a > HJC > > head. The CL-12 (and the CL-0 it replaced) fit me perfectly, so thats what > I > > g owith. Never have tested them to destruction, I am happy to say but I > have > > a high degree of confidance in them, even though the XXXL size is not > Snell > > rated. > > > > > > -Tom > > Personally, that Snell 95 rating is very important to me, as it implies a > standard and testing method that the manufactured good must comply with for > impact safety. (You can argue all you want about non-Snell helmets being > just as good or better, but to me, an industry test standard is a test > standard. Say you design and build pressure vessel, if it doesn't conform > to A.S.M.E. Boiler Code, I won't buy it.) In any case, that is the reason > why the HJC helmet costs less, because they didn't pay to have their product > evaluated by the Snell foundation, and without the approval sticker, many > motorcyclists won't buy it at the higher price that Snell approved helmets > go for. > > I always go for the Snell helmet, I had a friend get seriously hurt after > crashing with non approved lid, the dam thing just cracked and caved in, and > he was in a comma for three days. Just my opinion, but I know I'm right!

It should be noted that all HJC CL-12 smaller than sixe XXXL are in fact Snell 95 rated. Its just the XXXL that isnt. I dont know if it failed to pass Snell testing or if they never submitted a shell that size to Snell to be tested to begin with. I will remain a HJC user, regardless. -Tom '96 KLR 650