[dsn_klr650] nklr:klr650 in july ama magazine

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Jim & Shannon Morehead
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[dsn_klr650] gas mileage

Post by Jim & Shannon Morehead » Mon Jun 05, 2000 3:55 pm

Sorry Chris. I couldn't resist the pun. I think I've heard all the jokes, both clean and dirty, that can be made about my name too. Technically, you are correct. If there is anything in the fuel other than pure gasoline (Now there's an oxymoron for you.) the mass flow of the combustible fuel is reduced. However, I don't think you'll find that the mass fraction of oxygen in any liquid fuel is enough to reduce gasoline mass flow in any significant way. Good luck on the wind tunnel work. Jim
----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Krok To: Jim & Shannon Morehead Cc: DSN_klr650@egroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 11:55 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: gas mileage > > > > > That sounds like a crock to me Chris. Har har har. > > Gee, I've never heard THAT one before! :) > > > > > Seriously though, how do you figure that oxygen in the fuel is any different > > than oxygen from the air? > > I'm thinking in terms of the mass that enters the engine. In the carb, > a given flow of fuel comes in the fuel side for a given amount of air > coming in the air side. If there is oxygen in the fuel, it is taking up > mass in the fuel circuit that could be taken up by more fuel instead. > Thus, the engine is burning leaner, and you aren't packing as much > energy into the cylinder as you could. In other words, the carb doesn't > know that oxygen is coming in through the fuel circuit, so it keeps > pumping in the same amount of air. Does that make any sense? Parts for > the wind tunnel arrive tomorrow, so I have to get things ready, and my > posts aren't as well-versed as I'd like them to be! > > Granted, I'd think that this would give you better gas mileage, since > you are running leaner. But, you have to open the throttle more to get > the same amount of power as you would otherwise, so you end up burning > more fuel overall. > > Chris > > > -- > Dr. J. Christopher Krok Project Engineer, Adaptive Wall Wind Tunnel > Graduate Aeronautical Laboratories, California Institute of Technology > MS 205-45 Phone: 626.395.4794 > Pasadena, CA 91125 Fax: 626.449.2677 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: > http://click.egroups.com/1/4054/5/_/911801/_/960223004/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > >

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[dsn_klr650] nklr:klr650 in july ama magazine

Post by InWoods13@aol.com » Tue Jun 06, 2000 6:01 am

In a message dated 6/5/00 10:04:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DEHAGER@... writes: >>
The KLR got honorable mention in Julys "Motor Cyclist". Listed under the 2000 model bikes their comment "Long-running model refined into super dual-sport". Why are their no reviews/shootouts done with the KLR involved? You'd think that some mag would have a field day doing a review of the Olive colored KLR using the USMC angle. The above mentioned mag actually did a comparison between the DR-Z400S & F650GS. I can understand why (one dual-sport extreme to the other), but don't like it much. The mighty KLR deserves a spot in there. Scott A14 "Thunderdog" Sorrento