Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Sandy Rivera · Post by **Sandy Rivera** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:06 pm

Isn't that where some parts are originating from, like the MikeJ-v2 Torso ???

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So I'll take the silence as a "yes". Although I asked Mike a few years ago at one of the Robocons if he owned the hero and he said no. Maybe he just didn't want to say. So I'm not trying to start any arguments or anything but why all the secrecy? I mean if one of us in the club owns the hero, isn't that a good thing? At least he's owned by someone who appreciates it and will take care of it. If I owned him, I'd be proud of it. Share photos and info to better provide info to the club and people who equally appreciate it. Just sayin'! -Roy

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Are you saying Mike owns the hero?

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Date: 01/24/2016 9:24 PM (GMT-07:00)
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This photo is becoming even more of a mystery. Some great evidence has been added here. I always thought the hero legs were useless after the MI retro-fit, and that s probably because they did appear hardened and looked different, shiny, to me but that fact that you, Marc, saw the hero at the Boston reunion and saw the white paint is proof they were used for a time. The legs in this photo to me look like they did on the show as they never looked that way again. It was the specific way they looked when Bob was in it. There s that first bellow right where the legs spit into two different legs, right below the crotch if you will on the right leg. There s that first bellow there that always droops. It looks like that on every occasion of the show but never after, never that severe. But I do believe the guys who noticed the Greg Jein altercations on the stunt so I now have to imagine that it s not from the show but is indeed our hero and his stunt double, it s just a question of when. Maybe I ll send Flint an email, he must know. Anyway, you know when these robots were acquired there are some molds that go along with them and duplicate parts were made.

Let s also not forget that the robot did have a sort of career after LIS and before Mystery Island where he would make public appearances and I m sure parts here and there were broken and was in need of replacing with whatever. I remember seeing a photo of the hero on a Jerry Lewis telethon maybe in 1970 and he had an acrylic cake box for a bubble, you know the one more like the Mystery Island flat on the top and bottom kind.

I ve tracked these robots since the 80 s when I reached out to Flint after having discovered LISFAN, I m sure a lot of us did, following the robot s journey after he was unearthed by Kevin. I love researching him and following the trail and getting that photographic evidence. However, there are tons of stuff we ll never know, mostly during the show s run. Case in point, I don t know how many of you remember that there was an original radar on eBay, not screen used but pulled from the mold during the production of the show. I m sure there were many back-up parts during the production of a show where time is money. Anyway, I won that radar and the interesting thing about it is that it had, in resign, the bubble lifter boot so that was part of the radar mold. Interesting to be sure and proof that there s so much we won t know.

As far as after the discovery of both robots in storage, that history we should and can know. I agree with Marc 100% that this should all be documented on the web site and for the most part I think it was to some degree. Posts have been put up and removed over time but I haven t been there in a long time so I don t know what s up now. Wasn t Dan Monroe s brilliant epitaph to the stunt robot (1967-2004) up on the site. I was disappointed that there wasn't a Robot featurette like the Robby one on the 50th Forbidden Planet DVD on the new LIS set.

As far as who owns these robots, it s no secret that the stunt version is in Paul Allen s Sci FI museum or what s left of him. As far as the hero, I think it s been a loosely guarded secret. I know that Mike J was given access and was privy to the original robot when he started his licensed version venture and acquired a ton of first hand, useful information from the original that he wasn t very eager to share with the group. I mean if his replicas were gonna sell they had to be the best, right? Anyway, if that happened, and it did, that means Kevin knows who owns the hero and why wouldn t he, he owned it. I m sure many of the senior members know where the hero is too, I do. I find it amusing as to the secrecy, I mean, if you followed these robot s history, you d know, right? LOL

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warpig2011 · Post by **warpig2011** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:38 pm

I'm really enjoying this history lesson and discussion (also the collar discussion a short while back)!

It appears that our mechanical friend had a secret life before he almost crumbled to dust in storage.

Those "original" parts that were on eBay; any more photos? They would look good into the "Robot History" page of the website that I'm *sure* will become a reality in 2016. Are there any decent pictures from the post-LIS series days, or are the blurry screencaps and news clippings all there are?

And... who really owns the hero? And who owns other original parts? Post pictures!!

Gary Olley · Post by **Gary Olley** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:58 pm

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I'm really enjoying this history lesson and discussion (also the collar discussion a short while back)!

It appears that our mechanical friend had a secret life before he almost crumbled to dust in storage.

Those "original" parts that were on eBay; any more photos? They would look good into the "Robot History" page of the website that I'm *sure* will become a reality in 2016. Are there any decent pictures from the post-LIS series days, or are the blurry screencaps and news clippings all there are?

And... who really owns the hero? And who owns other original parts? Post pictures!!No virus found in this message.
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ponyboy8844 · Post by **ponyboy8844** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:04 pm

Maybe Garry can chime back in. He said he knows who owns the original. Maybe he can also tell us why this is supposed to be a big secret. Last photo I ever saw of the hero was when it was being sold on ebay by Kevin Burns. Looked like the robot was in a garage. I was going to bid on it but I wasn't sure if it was legit. No one bid on it and it didn't sell. Kevin sold it shortly afterward to someone. I'm guessing that person still owns it. Was it one of us? I've been told the robot is only about 30% original since so many parts had to be replaced. Is that why the owner hasn't shown it? Even 30% is better than nothing especially considering the extent of restoration that was needed after Mystery Island. -Roy

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I'm really enjoying this history lesson and discussion (also the collar discussion a short while back)!

It appears that our mechanical friend had a secret life before he almost crumbled to dust in storage.

Those "original" parts that were on eBay; any more photos? They would look good into the "Robot History" page of the website that I'm *sure* will become a reality in 2016. Are there any decent pictures from the post-LIS series days, or are the blurry screencaps and news clippings all there are?

And... who really owns the hero? And who owns other original parts? Post pictures!!

ponyboy8844 · Post by **ponyboy8844** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:10 pm

That's what I've suspected. I know Mike's replicas used pulls from the original stone molds for the torso that Kevin Burns owned. I think the legs as well from the original molds which thankfully still exist. Those replicas were really excellent. -Roy

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Isn't that where some parts are originating from, like the MikeJ-v2 Torso ???

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So I'll take the silence as a "yes". Although I asked Mike a few years ago at one of the Robocons if he owned the hero and he said no. Maybe he just didn't want to say. So I'm not trying to start any arguments or anything but why all the secrecy? I mean if one of us in the club owns the hero, isn't that a good thing? At least he's owned by someone who appreciates it and will take care of it. If I owned him, I'd be proud of it. Share photos and info to better provide info to the club and people who equally appreciate it. Just sayin'! -Roy

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Are you saying Mike owns the hero?

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This photo is becoming even more of a mystery. Some great evidence has been added here. I always thought the hero legs were useless after the MI retro-fit, and that s probably because they did appear hardened and looked different, shiny, to me but that fact that you, Marc, saw the hero at the Boston reunion and saw the white paint is proof they were used for a time. The legs in this photo to me look like they did on the show as they never looked that way again. It was the specific way they looked when Bob was in it. There s that first bellow right where the legs spit into two different legs, right below the crotch if you will on the right leg. There s that first bellow there that always droops. It looks like that on every occasion of the show but never after, never that severe. But I do believe the guys who noticed the Greg Jein altercations on the stunt so I now have to imagine that it s not from the show but is indeed our hero and his stunt double, it s just a question of when. Maybe I ll send Flint an email, he must know. Anyway, you know when these robots were acquired there are some molds that go along with them and duplicate parts were made.

Let s also not forget that the robot did have a sort of career after LIS and before Mystery Island where he would make public appearances and I m sure parts here and there were broken and was in need of replacing with whatever. I remember seeing a photo of the hero on a Jerry Lewis telethon maybe in 1970 and he had an acrylic cake box for a bubble, you know the one more like the Mystery Island flat on the top and bottom kind.

I ve tracked these robots since the 80 s when I reached out to Flint after having discovered LISFAN, I m sure a lot of us did, following the robot s journey after he was unearthed by Kevin. I love researching him and following the trail and getting that photographic evidence. However, there are tons of stuff we ll never know, mostly during the show s run. Case in point, I don t know how many of you remember that there was an original radar on eBay, not screen used but pulled from the mold during the production of the show. I m sure there were many back-up parts during the production of a show where time is money. Anyway, I won that radar and the interesting thing about it is that it had, in resign, the bubble lifter boot so that was part of the radar mold. Interesting to be sure and proof that there s so much we won t know.

As far as after the discovery of both robots in storage, that history we should and can know. I agree with Marc 100% that this should all be documented on the web site and for the most part I think it was to some degree. Posts have been put up and removed over time but I haven t been there in a long time so I don t know what s up now. Wasn t Dan Monroe s brilliant epitaph to the stunt robot (1967-2004) up on the site. I was disappointed that there wasn't a Robot featurette like the Robby one on the 50th Forbidden Planet DVD on the new LIS set.

As far as who owns these robots, it s no secret that the stunt version is in Paul Allen s Sci FI museum or what s left of him. As far as the hero, I think it s been a loosely guarded secret. I know that Mike J was given access and was privy to the original robot when he started his licensed version venture and acquired a ton of first hand, useful information from the original that he wasn t very eager to share with the group. I mean if his replicas were gonna sell they had to be the best, right? Anyway, if that happened, and it did, that means Kevin knows who owns the hero and why wouldn t he, he owned it. I m sure many of the senior members know where the hero is too, I do. I find it amusing as to the secrecy, I mean, if you followed these robot s history, you d know, right? LOL

Garry

Sandy Rivera · Post by **Sandy Rivera** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:18 pm

So which Robot are we talking about? Isn't there the Hero/Restored and then the Hero/Copy? Didn't KB own the copy? I would have not let either one of those go! Priceless. If I had the money back then, I would have purchased it myself from the Fox Warehouse.

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Maybe Garry can chime back in. He said he knows who owns the original. Maybe he can also tell us why this is supposed to be a big secret. Last photo I ever saw of the hero was when it was being sold on ebay by Kevin Burns. Looked like the robot was in a garage. I was going to bid on it but I wasn't sure if it was legit. No one bid on it and it didn't sell. Kevin sold it shortly afterward to someone. I'm guessing that person still owns it. Was it one of us? I've been told the robot is only about 30% original since so many parts had to be replaced. Is that why the owner hasn't shown it? Even 30% is better than nothing especially considering the extent of restoration that was needed after Mystery Island. -Roy

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I'm really enjoying this history lesson and discussion (also the collar discussion a short while back)!

It appears that our mechanical friend had a secret life before he almost crumbled to dust in storage.

Those "original" parts that were on eBay; any more photos? They would look good into the "Robot History" page of the website that I'm *sure* will become a reality in 2016. Are there any decent pictures from the post-LIS series days, or are the blurry screencaps and news clippings all there are?

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Charlie's BatCave · Post by **Charlie's BatCave** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:20 pm

Charlie
RoboCon
The Place Where Robots Meet
www.robocondenver.com

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From: "ponyboy8844 ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
To: "Robot Builders"
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

That's what I've suspected. I know Mike's replicas used pulls from the original stone molds for the torso that Kevin Burns owned. I think the legs as well from the original molds which thankfully still exist. Those replicas were really excellent. -Roy

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From: "sandy rivera sandrockriver996@yahoo.com [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/25/2016 2:03 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Isn't that where some parts are originating from, like the MikeJ-v2 Torso ???

From: "ponyboy8844 ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
To: Robot Builders
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

So I'll take the silence as a "yes". Although I asked Mike a few years ago at one of the Robocons if he owned the hero and he said no. Maybe he just didn't want to say. So I'm not trying to start any arguments or anything but why all the secrecy? I mean if one of us in the club owns the hero, isn't that a good thing? At least he's owned by someone who appreciates it and will take care of it. If I owned him, I'd be proud of it. Share photos and info to better provide info to the club and people who equally appreciate it. Just sayin'! -Roy

-------- Original message --------
From: "ponyboy8844 ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/24/2016 10:22 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Robot Builders
Subject: RE: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Are you saying Mike owns the hero?

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From: "quadrant-6@nyc.rr.com [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/24/2016 9:24 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

This photo is becoming even more of a mystery. Some great evidence has been added here. I always thought the hero legs were useless after the MI retro-fit, and that s probably because they did appear hardened and looked different, shiny, to me but that fact that you, Marc, saw the hero at the Boston reunion and saw the white paint is proof they were used for a time. The legs in this photo to me look like they did on the show as they never looked that way again. It was the specific way they looked when Bob was in it. There s that first bellow right where the legs spit into two different legs, right below the crotch if you will on the right leg. There s that first bellow there that always droops. It looks like that on every occasion of the show but never after, never that severe. But I do believe the guys who noticed the Greg Jein altercations on the stunt so I now have to imagine that it s not from the show but is indeed our hero and his stunt double, it s just a question of when. Maybe I ll send Flint an email, he must know. Anyway, you know when these robots were acquired there are some molds that go along with them and duplicate parts were made.

Let s also not forget that the robot did have a sort of career after LIS and before Mystery Island where he would make public appearances and I m sure parts here and there were broken and was in need of replacing with whatever. I remember seeing a photo of the hero on a Jerry Lewis telethon maybe in 1970 and he had an acrylic cake box for a bubble, you know the one more like the Mystery Island flat on the top and bottom kind.

I ve tracked these robots since the 80 s when I reached out to Flint after having discovered LISFAN, I m sure a lot of us did, following the robot s journey after he was unearthed by Kevin. I love researching him and following the trail and getting that photographic evidence. However, there are tons of stuff we ll never know, mostly during the show s run. Case in point, I don t know how many of you remember that there was an original radar on eBay, not screen used but pulled from the mold during the production of the show. I m sure there were many back-up parts during the production of a show where time is money. Anyway, I won that radar and the interesting thing about it is that it had, in resign, the bubble lifter boot so that was part of the radar mold. Interesting to be sure and proof that there s so much we won t know.

As far as after the discovery of both robots in storage, that history we should and can know. I agree with Marc 100% that this should all be documented on the web site and for the most part I think it was to some degree. Posts have been put up and removed over time but I haven t been there in a long time so I don t know what s up now. Wasn t Dan Monroe s brilliant epitaph to the stunt robot (1967-2004) up on the site. I was disappointed that there wasn't a Robot featurette like the Robby one on the 50th Forbidden Planet DVD on the new LIS set.

As far as who owns these robots, it s no secret that the stunt version is in Paul Allen s Sci FI museum or what s left of him. As far as the hero, I think it s been a loosely guarded secret. I know that Mike J was given access and was privy to the original robot when he started his licensed version venture and acquired a ton of first hand, useful information from the original that he wasn t very eager to share with the group. I mean if his replicas were gonna sell they had to be the best, right? Anyway, if that happened, and it did, that means Kevin knows who owns the hero and why wouldn t he, he owned it. I m sure many of the senior members know where the hero is too, I do. I find it amusing as to the secrecy, I mean, if you followed these robot s history, you d know, right? LOL

Garry

Hey Guys,

MikeJ does NOT own the original Hero B9. He was allowed to use original molds and other items owned by Kevin Burns to use in making the B9 Creations Replica. The rubber, legs, arms and bubble boot is made by Will Huff. The same product he is selling to the builders today. The original Hero Robot is owned by Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft Inc. The "Dummy" Robot was restored and is in th Sci-Fi Museum in Seattle.

Sandy Rivera · Post by **Sandy Rivera** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:21 pm

Are those leg's still available for purchase?

From: "ponyboy8844 ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
To: Robot Builders
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

That's what I've suspected. I know Mike's replicas used pulls from the original stone molds for the torso that Kevin Burns owned. I think the legs as well from the original molds which thankfully still exist. Those replicas were really excellent. -Roy

-------- Original message --------
From: "sandy rivera sandrockriver996@yahoo.com [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/25/2016 2:03 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Isn't that where some parts are originating from, like the MikeJ-v2 Torso ???

From: "ponyboy8844 ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
To: Robot Builders
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

So I'll take the silence as a "yes". Although I asked Mike a few years ago at one of the Robocons if he owned the hero and he said no. Maybe he just didn't want to say. So I'm not trying to start any arguments or anything but why all the secrecy? I mean if one of us in the club owns the hero, isn't that a good thing? At least he's owned by someone who appreciates it and will take care of it. If I owned him, I'd be proud of it. Share photos and info to better provide info to the club and people who equally appreciate it. Just sayin'! -Roy

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From: "ponyboy8844 ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/24/2016 10:22 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Robot Builders
Subject: RE: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Are you saying Mike owns the hero?

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From: "quadrant-6@nyc.rr.com [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/24/2016 9:24 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

This photo is becoming even more of a mystery. Some great evidence has been added here. I always thought the hero legs were useless after the MI retro-fit, and that s probably because they did appear hardened and looked different, shiny, to me but that fact that you, Marc, saw the hero at the Boston reunion and saw the white paint is proof they were used for a time. The legs in this photo to me look like they did on the show as they never looked that way again. It was the specific way they looked when Bob was in it. There s that first bellow right where the legs spit into two different legs, right below the crotch if you will on the right leg. There s that first bellow there that always droops. It looks like that on every occasion of the show but never after, never that severe. But I do believe the guys who noticed the Greg Jein altercations on the stunt so I now have to imagine that it s not from the show but is indeed our hero and his stunt double, it s just a question of when. Maybe I ll send Flint an email, he must know. Anyway, you know when these robots were acquired there are some molds that go along with them and duplicate parts were made.

Let s also not forget that the robot did have a sort of career after LIS and before Mystery Island where he would make public appearances and I m sure parts here and there were broken and was in need of replacing with whatever. I remember seeing a photo of the hero on a Jerry Lewis telethon maybe in 1970 and he had an acrylic cake box for a bubble, you know the one more like the Mystery Island flat on the top and bottom kind.

I ve tracked these robots since the 80 s when I reached out to Flint after having discovered LISFAN, I m sure a lot of us did, following the robot s journey after he was unearthed by Kevin. I love researching him and following the trail and getting that photographic evidence. However, there are tons of stuff we ll never know, mostly during the show s run. Case in point, I don t know how many of you remember that there was an original radar on eBay, not screen used but pulled from the mold during the production of the show. I m sure there were many back-up parts during the production of a show where time is money. Anyway, I won that radar and the interesting thing about it is that it had, in resign, the bubble lifter boot so that was part of the radar mold. Interesting to be sure and proof that there s so much we won t know.

As far as after the discovery of both robots in storage, that history we should and can know. I agree with Marc 100% that this should all be documented on the web site and for the most part I think it was to some degree. Posts have been put up and removed over time but I haven t been there in a long time so I don t know what s up now. Wasn t Dan Monroe s brilliant epitaph to the stunt robot (1967-2004) up on the site. I was disappointed that there wasn't a Robot featurette like the Robby one on the 50th Forbidden Planet DVD on the new LIS set.

As far as who owns these robots, it s no secret that the stunt version is in Paul Allen s Sci FI museum or what s left of him. As far as the hero, I think it s been a loosely guarded secret. I know that Mike J was given access and was privy to the original robot when he started his licensed version venture and acquired a ton of first hand, useful information from the original that he wasn t very eager to share with the group. I mean if his replicas were gonna sell they had to be the best, right? Anyway, if that happened, and it did, that means Kevin knows who owns the hero and why wouldn t he, he owned it. I m sure many of the senior members know where the hero is too, I do. I find it amusing as to the secrecy, I mean, if you followed these robot s history, you d know, right? LOL

Garry

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ponyboy8844 · Post by **ponyboy8844** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:25 pm

I'm not 100% certain the legs were made from pulls from the original molds. I'm guessing they were. You'd have to contact Mike and see if he had any leftovers when he stopped making the replicas. -Roy

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From: "sandy rivera sandrockriver996@yahoo.com [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/25/2016 3:18 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Are those leg's still available for purchase?

From: "ponyboy8844 ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
To: Robot Builders
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

That's what I've suspected. I know Mike's replicas used pulls from the original stone molds for the torso that Kevin Burns owned. I think the legs as well from the original molds which thankfully still exist. Those replicas were really excellent. -Roy

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From: "sandy rivera sandrockriver996@yahoo.com [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/25/2016 2:03 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Isn't that where some parts are originating from, like the MikeJ-v2 Torso ???

From: "ponyboy8844 ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
To: Robot Builders
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

So I'll take the silence as a "yes". Although I asked Mike a few years ago at one of the Robocons if he owned the hero and he said no. Maybe he just didn't want to say. So I'm not trying to start any arguments or anything but why all the secrecy? I mean if one of us in the club owns the hero, isn't that a good thing? At least he's owned by someone who appreciates it and will take care of it. If I owned him, I'd be proud of it. Share photos and info to better provide info to the club and people who equally appreciate it. Just sayin'! -Roy

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From: "ponyboy8844 ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/24/2016 10:22 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Robot Builders
Subject: RE: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Are you saying Mike owns the hero?

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From: "quadrant-6@nyc.rr.com [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/24/2016 9:24 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

This photo is becoming even more of a mystery. Some great evidence has been added here. I always thought the hero legs were useless after the MI retro-fit, and that s probably because they did appear hardened and looked different, shiny, to me but that fact that you, Marc, saw the hero at the Boston reunion and saw the white paint is proof they were used for a time. The legs in this photo to me look like they did on the show as they never looked that way again. It was the specific way they looked when Bob was in it. There s that first bellow right where the legs spit into two different legs, right below the crotch if you will on the right leg. There s that first bellow there that always droops. It looks like that on every occasion of the show but never after, never that severe. But I do believe the guys who noticed the Greg Jein altercations on the stunt so I now have to imagine that it s not from the show but is indeed our hero and his stunt double, it s just a question of when. Maybe I ll send Flint an email, he must know. Anyway, you know when these robots were acquired there are some molds that go along with them and duplicate parts were made.

Let s also not forget that the robot did have a sort of career after LIS and before Mystery Island where he would make public appearances and I m sure parts here and there were broken and was in need of replacing with whatever. I remember seeing a photo of the hero on a Jerry Lewis telethon maybe in 1970 and he had an acrylic cake box for a bubble, you know the one more like the Mystery Island flat on the top and bottom kind.

I ve tracked these robots since the 80 s when I reached out to Flint after having discovered LISFAN, I m sure a lot of us did, following the robot s journey after he was unearthed by Kevin. I love researching him and following the trail and getting that photographic evidence. However, there are tons of stuff we ll never know, mostly during the show s run. Case in point, I don t know how many of you remember that there was an original radar on eBay, not screen used but pulled from the mold during the production of the show. I m sure there were many back-up parts during the production of a show where time is money. Anyway, I won that radar and the interesting thing about it is that it had, in resign, the bubble lifter boot so that was part of the radar mold. Interesting to be sure and proof that there s so much we won t know.

As far as after the discovery of both robots in storage, that history we should and can know. I agree with Marc 100% that this should all be documented on the web site and for the most part I think it was to some degree. Posts have been put up and removed over time but I haven t been there in a long time so I don t know what s up now. Wasn t Dan Monroe s brilliant epitaph to the stunt robot (1967-2004) up on the site. I was disappointed that there wasn't a Robot featurette like the Robby one on the 50th Forbidden Planet DVD on the new LIS set.

As far as who owns these robots, it s no secret that the stunt version is in Paul Allen s Sci FI museum or what s left of him. As far as the hero, I think it s been a loosely guarded secret. I know that Mike J was given access and was privy to the original robot when he started his licensed version venture and acquired a ton of first hand, useful information from the original that he wasn t very eager to share with the group. I mean if his replicas were gonna sell they had to be the best, right? Anyway, if that happened, and it did, that means Kevin knows who owns the hero and why wouldn t he, he owned it. I m sure many of the senior members know where the hero is too, I do. I find it amusing as to the secrecy, I mean, if you followed these robot s history, you d know, right? LOL

Garry

Sandy Rivera · Post by **Sandy Rivera** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:27 pm

Charlie, Were you going to say something? Your message didn't come through.

From: "Charlie's BatCave batcave@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
To: "Group, B9"
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Charlie
RoboCon
The Place Where Robots Meet
www.robocondenver.com

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From: "ponyboy8844 ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
To: "Robot Builders"
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

That's what I've suspected. I know Mike's replicas used pulls from the original stone molds for the torso that Kevin Burns owned. I think the legs as well from the original molds which thankfully still exist. Those replicas were really excellent. -Roy

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From: "sandy rivera sandrockriver996@yahoo.com [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/25/2016 2:03 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Isn't that where some parts are originating from, like the MikeJ-v2 Torso ???

From: "ponyboy8844 ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
To: Robot Builders
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

So I'll take the silence as a "yes". Although I asked Mike a few years ago at one of the Robocons if he owned the hero and he said no. Maybe he just didn't want to say. So I'm not trying to start any arguments or anything but why all the secrecy? I mean if one of us in the club owns the hero, isn't that a good thing? At least he's owned by someone who appreciates it and will take care of it. If I owned him, I'd be proud of it. Share photos and info to better provide info to the club and people who equally appreciate it. Just sayin'! -Roy

-------- Original message --------
From: "ponyboy8844 ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/24/2016 10:22 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Robot Builders
Subject: RE: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Are you saying Mike owns the hero?

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From: "quadrant-6@nyc.rr.com [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/24/2016 9:24 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

This photo is becoming even more of a mystery. Some great evidence has been added here. I always thought the hero legs were useless after the MI retro-fit, and that s probably because they did appear hardened and looked different, shiny, to me but that fact that you, Marc, saw the hero at the Boston reunion and saw the white paint is proof they were used for a time. The legs in this photo to me look like they did on the show as they never looked that way again. It was the specific way they looked when Bob was in it. There s that first bellow right where the legs spit into two different legs, right below the crotch if you will on the right leg. There s that first bellow there that always droops. It looks like that on every occasion of the show but never after, never that severe. But I do believe the guys who noticed the Greg Jein altercations on the stunt so I now have to imagine that it s not from the show but is indeed our hero and his stunt double, it s just a question of when. Maybe I ll send Flint an email, he must know. Anyway, you know when these robots were acquired there are some molds that go along with them and duplicate parts were made.

Let s also not forget that the robot did have a sort of career after LIS and before Mystery Island where he would make public appearances and I m sure parts here and there were broken and was in need of replacing with whatever. I remember seeing a photo of the hero on a Jerry Lewis telethon maybe in 1970 and he had an acrylic cake box for a bubble, you know the one more like the Mystery Island flat on the top and bottom kind.

I ve tracked these robots since the 80 s when I reached out to Flint after having discovered LISFAN, I m sure a lot of us did, following the robot s journey after he was unearthed by Kevin. I love researching him and following the trail and getting that photographic evidence. However, there are tons of stuff we ll never know, mostly during the show s run. Case in point, I don t know how many of you remember that there was an original radar on eBay, not screen used but pulled from the mold during the production of the show. I m sure there were many back-up parts during the production of a show where time is money. Anyway, I won that radar and the interesting thing about it is that it had, in resign, the bubble lifter boot so that was part of the radar mold. Interesting to be sure and proof that there s so much we won t know.

As far as after the discovery of both robots in storage, that history we should and can know. I agree with Marc 100% that this should all be documented on the web site and for the most part I think it was to some degree. Posts have been put up and removed over time but I haven t been there in a long time so I don t know what s up now. Wasn t Dan Monroe s brilliant epitaph to the stunt robot (1967-2004) up on the site. I was disappointed that there wasn't a Robot featurette like the Robby one on the 50th Forbidden Planet DVD on the new LIS set.

As far as who owns these robots, it s no secret that the stunt version is in Paul Allen s Sci FI museum or what s left of him. As far as the hero, I think it s been a loosely guarded secret. I know that Mike J was given access and was privy to the original robot when he started his licensed version venture and acquired a ton of first hand, useful information from the original that he wasn t very eager to share with the group. I mean if his replicas were gonna sell they had to be the best, right? Anyway, if that happened, and it did, that means Kevin knows who owns the hero and why wouldn t he, he owned it. I m sure many of the senior members know where the hero is too, I do. I find it amusing as to the secrecy, I mean, if you followed these robot s history, you d know, right? LOL

Garry

Hey Guys,

MikeJ does NOT own the original Hero B9. He was allowed to use original molds and other items owned by Kevin Burns to use in making the B9 Creations Replica. The rubber, legs, arms and bubble boot is made by Will Huff. The same product he is selling to the builders today. The original Hero Robot is owned by Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft Inc. The "Dummy" Robot was restored and is in th Sci-Fi Museum in Seattle.

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