Re: 3D Modeling

James Rauch
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Re: OT 3D Modeling

Post by James Rauch » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:15 pm

My new computer came with win 8.1 after the update to 10 I tried to uninstall but my computer told me it would return to win 7 so personally I felt forced to keep the 10. You can fix it so not everything you do doesn t get reported to Microsoft.  From: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:B9Builders@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:58 PM
To: b9builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling    well just so you know you can turn off the auto updade to 10 and win 8.1 will be unsupported soon,after the 10 install you get 28 days to roll back if you dont like it.

Muldokken
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From: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 12:52:49 -0500
Subject: RE: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling

   My old computer died three weeks before their free update date and when I was forced to buy this computer I didn t know anything about the OS update and I clicked on a little icon in the lower right corner of my new 8.1 desktop to see what it did, it automatically just started updating to win 10 which is too bad because I was starting to like win 8.1.  But yes give it  a try, I did but I have no idea how to use it or even if it s any good plus  I figure since I will never have a 3d printer of my own there is no need for me to waste any time trying to figure it out.Good luck and let me know what you think.Jim From: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com [B9Builders@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling   Interesting.  I will need to check that out.  So far, I have not been forced to update, but they are now trying to trick you in to updating and if updates are set to automatic, it just does it.  Bummer.
Bobby  ----- Original Message ----- From: faqall@sssnet.com%20[B9Builders] To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:24 AMSubject: RE: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling   I don t know if this would help but when the nice people at Microsoft updated my OS from windows 8.1 to windows 10 for free, and without my permission, it came with a free 3D modeling program called 3D Builder ( 3D Builder Windows Apps on Microsoft Store )I don t know if it s any good or not because I am not smart enough to figure out how to use it, but you can t beat the price.Jim RauchB9-0355From: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com [B9Builders@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 10:09 PM
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Subject: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling  OK, it's gotten to that point. I've *always* wanted to learn 3D modeling; now with 3D printing finally coming of age, it's time.

Some really n00b basic questions to you 3D gurus:

1. Is there any 3D modeling software that is like Adobe Illustrator in the way it's used? Being familiar with Illustrator, I think I'd find it less confusion.

2. What software(s) would you recommend, based on (in order of my importance) ability to create .obj and .stl printing files, user-friendliness, availability of resources (tutorials, user groups, etc.), standard software within the industry (I'm not going to learn something and then find there's no use for it outside a personal studio!) and cost?

I've looked at a few CAD packages, Blender, 3ds Max, Maya... result: confusion. Image

My goal? Print some bits and bobs for my B9, of course.  

David Reabe
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Re: 3D Modeling

Post by David Reabe » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:28 am

I keep getting a reminder to upgrade to windows 10,but I keep ignoring it! One problem is that Windows media player will not work with windows 10. So How do you pay what you have on your computer?



On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:40 PM, "'Bobby Clark' bclark@airmail.net [B9Builders]" wrote:


  Interesting.  I will need to check that out.  So far, I have not been forced to update, but they are now trying to trick you in to updating and if updates are set to automatic, it just does it.  Bummer.
Bobby  
----- Original Message ----- From: faqall@sssnet.com%20[B9Builders] To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:24 AM Subject: RE: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling
  I don t know if this would help but when the nice people at Microsoft updated my OS from windows 8.1 to windows 10 for free, and without my permission, it came with a free 3D modeling program called 3D Builder ( 3D Builder Windows Apps on Microsoft Store ) I don t know if it s any good or not because I am not smart enough to figure out how to use it, but you can t beat the price. Jim Rauch B9-0355 From: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:B9Builders@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 10:09 PM
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling   OK, it's gotten to that point. I've *always* wanted to learn 3D modeling; now with 3D printing finally coming of age, it's time.

Some really n00b basic questions to you 3D gurus:

1. Is there any 3D modeling software that is like Adobe Illustrator in the way it's used? Being familiar with Illustrator, I think I'd find it less confusion.

2. What software(s) would you recommend, based on (in order of my importance) ability to create .obj and .stl printing files, user-friendliness, availability of resources (tutorials, user groups, etc.), standard software within the industry (I'm not going to learn something and then find there's no use for it outside a personal studio!) and cost?

I've looked at a few CAD packages, Blender, 3ds Max, Maya... result: confusion. Image

My goal? Print some bits and bobs for my B9, of course.
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David Reabe
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Re: 3D Modeling

Post by David Reabe » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:46 am

And if Windows is as invasive as was said,I will not upgrade! Windows owns google or vice versa,don't care, but I have heard Google does try to track what you do online and even said it would maintain your gmail account! I believe the gmail idea was shot down!



On Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:28 AM, "David Reabe dar19904@yahoo.com [B9Builders]" wrote:


  I keep getting a reminder to upgrade to windows 10,but I keep ignoring it! One problem is that Windows media player will not work with windows 10. So How do you pay what you have on your computer?



On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:40 PM, "'Bobby Clark' bclark@airmail.net [B9Builders]" wrote:


  Interesting.  I will need to check that out.  So far, I have not been forced to update, but they are now trying to trick you in to updating and if updates are set to automatic, it just does it.  Bummer.
Bobby  
----- Original Message ----- From: faqall@sssnet.com%20[B9Builders] To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:24 AM Subject: RE: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling
  I don t know if this would help but when the nice people at Microsoft updated my OS from windows 8.1 to windows 10 for free, and without my permission, it came with a free 3D modeling program called 3D Builder ( 3D Builder Windows Apps on Microsoft Store ) I don t know if it s any good or not because I am not smart enough to figure out how to use it, but you can t beat the price. Jim Rauch B9-0355 From: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:B9Builders@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 10:09 PM
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling   OK, it's gotten to that point. I've *always* wanted to learn 3D modeling; now with 3D printing finally coming of age, it's time.

Some really n00b basic questions to you 3D gurus:

1. Is there any 3D modeling software that is like Adobe Illustrator in the way it's used? Being familiar with Illustrator, I think I'd find it less confusion.

2. What software(s) would you recommend, based on (in order of my importance) ability to create .obj and .stl printing files, user-friendliness, availability of resources (tutorials, user groups, etc.), standard software within the industry (I'm not going to learn something and then find there's no use for it outside a personal studio!) and cost?

I've looked at a few CAD packages, Blender, 3ds Max, Maya... result: confusion. Image

My goal? Print some bits and bobs for my B9, of course.


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Robert Hall
Posts: 223
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:43 pm

Re: 3D Modeling

Post by Robert Hall » Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:53 am

PTC Creo Direct Modeling Express
It's free, the only free 3D that compares to Solidworks, etc. only caveat is exporting to CAD/CAM files is a real headache,otherwise it's awesome and a great way to start modeling right now.if you do chunk up the cash, lots of it I think is needed, for paid software they all are pretty much the same but paid can save files that can be used for making parts.
Robert
By the way anyone needs connectors this Saturday I go to the post office, after that can't really guarantee delivery before Christmas as I have to work during the week.http://www.b9rbc.com/pub/parts/B90464/index.html

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On Dec 8, 2015, at 10:08 PM, warpig@cyberpigstudio.com [B9Builders] wrote:
 
OK, it's gotten to that point. I've *always* wanted to learn 3D modeling; now with 3D printing finally coming of age, it's time.

Some really n00b basic questions to you 3D gurus:

1. Is there any 3D modeling software that is like Adobe Illustrator in the way it's used? Being familiar with Illustrator, I think I'd find it less confusion.

2. What software(s) would you recommend, based on (in order of my importance) ability to create .obj and .stl printing files, user-friendliness, availability of resources (tutorials, user groups, etc.), standard software within the industry (I'm not going to learn something and then find there's no use for it outside a personal studio!) and cost?

I've looked at a few CAD packages, Blender, 3ds Max, Maya... result: confusion. Image

My goal? Print some bits and bobs for my B9, of course.

James Rauch
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:25 pm

Re: 3D Modeling

Post by James Rauch » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:32 am

No offense to what you heard or whom you heard it from but I didn t pay anything for Windows 10 and my media player works just as good as it always has, no problems.  Jim  From: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:B9Builders@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:29 AM
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling    I keep getting a reminder to upgrade to windows 10,but I keep ignoring it! One problem is that Windows media player will not work with windows 10. So How do you pay what you have on your computer?    On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:40 PM, "'Bobby Clark' bclark@airmail.net [B9Builders]" wrote:    Interesting.  I will need to check that out.  So far, I have not been forced to update, but they are now trying to trick you in to updating and if updates are set to automatic, it just does it.  Bummer.
Bobby 
----- Original Message ----- From: faqall@sssnet.com%20[B9Builders] To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:24 AMSubject: RE: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling    I don t know if this would help but when the nice people at Microsoft updated my OS from windows 8.1 to windows 10 for free, and without my permission, it came with a free 3D modeling program called 3D Builder ( 3D Builder Windows Apps on Microsoft Store )I don t know if it s any good or not because I am not smart enough to figure out how to use it, but you can t beat the price.Jim RauchB9-0355From: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com [B9Builders@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 10:09 PM
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling  OK, it's gotten to that point. I've *always* wanted to learn 3D modeling; now with 3D printing finally coming of age, it's time.

Some really n00b basic questions to you 3D gurus:

1. Is there any 3D modeling software that is like Adobe Illustrator in the way it's used? Being familiar with Illustrator, I think I'd find it less confusion.

2. What software(s) would you recommend, based on (in order of my importance) ability to create .obj and .stl printing files, user-friendliness, availability of resources (tutorials, user groups, etc.), standard software within the industry (I'm not going to learn something and then find there's no use for it outside a personal studio!) and cost?

I've looked at a few CAD packages, Blender, 3ds Max, Maya... result: confusion. Image

My goal? Print some bits and bobs for my B9, of course.
 

lynn johnson
Posts: 79
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:42 pm

Re: 3D Modeling

Post by lynn johnson » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:48 am

media center is what they got rid of and the ability to play dvds which is bs but there are free 3rd party apps that work fine for that. I got in early and i got the pro version so i got a free dvd player

Muldokken


To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
From: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 10:32:15 -0500
Subject: RE: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling

 
No offense to what you heard or whom you heard it from but I didn t pay anything for Windows 10 and my media player works just as good as it always has, no problems. Jim From: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:B9Builders@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:29 AM
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling   I keep getting a reminder to upgrade to windows 10,but I keep ignoring it! One problem is that Windows media player will not work with windows 10. So How do you pay what you have on your computer?  On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:40 PM, "'Bobby Clark' bclark@airmail.net [B9Builders]" wrote:   Interesting.  I will need to check that out.  So far, I have not been forced to update, but they are now trying to trick you in to updating and if updates are set to automatic, it just does it.  Bummer.
Bobby 
----- Original Message ----- From: faqall@sssnet.com%20[B9Builders] To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:24 AMSubject: RE: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling   I don t know if this would help but when the nice people at Microsoft updated my OS from windows 8.1 to windows 10 for free, and without my permission, it came with a free 3D modeling program called 3D Builder ( 3D Builder Windows Apps on Microsoft Store )I don t know if it s any good or not because I am not smart enough to figure out how to use it, but you can t beat the price.Jim RauchB9-0355From: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com [B9Builders@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 10:09 PM
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling  OK, it's gotten to that point. I've *always* wanted to learn 3D modeling; now with 3D printing finally coming of age, it's time.

Some really n00b basic questions to you 3D gurus:

1. Is there any 3D modeling software that is like Adobe Illustrator in the way it's used? Being familiar with Illustrator, I think I'd find it less confusion.

2. What software(s) would you recommend, based on (in order of my importance) ability to create .obj and .stl printing files, user-friendliness, availability of resources (tutorials, user groups, etc.), standard software within the industry (I'm not going to learn something and then find there's no use for it outside a personal studio!) and cost?

I've looked at a few CAD packages, Blender, 3ds Max, Maya... result: confusion. Image

My goal? Print some bits and bobs for my B9, of course.
 

Bob Darlington
Posts: 203
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:38 pm

Re: 3D Modeling

Post by Bob Darlington » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:51 am

Windows Media Player is pretty terrible. If you're not running VLC (completely free), you're doing it wrong! ;-) Seriously, download VLC and check it out.
-Bob
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 10:28 PM, David Reabe dar19904@yahoo.com [B9Builders] wrote:

I keep getting a reminder to upgrade to windows 10,but I keep ignoring it! One problem is that Windows media player will not work with windows 10. So How do you pay what you have on your computer?



On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:40 PM, "'Bobby Clark' bclark@airmail.net [B9Builders]" wrote:


Interesting. I will need to check that out. So far, I have not been forced to update, but they are now trying to trick you in to updating and if updates are set to automatic, it just does it. Bummer.
Bobby ----- Original Message ----- From: faqall@sssnet.com%20[B9Builders] To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:24 AM Subject: RE: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling
I don t know if this would help but when the nice people at Microsoft updated my OS from windows 8.1 to windows 10 for free, and without my permission, it came with a free 3D modeling program called 3D Builder ( 3D Builder Windows Apps on Microsoft Store ) I don t know if it s any good or not because I am not smart enough to figure out how to use it, but you can t beat the price. Jim Rauch B9-0355 From: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:B9Builders@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 10:09 PM
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling OK, it's gotten to that point. I've *always* wanted to learn 3D modeling; now with 3D printing finally coming of age, it's time.

Some really n00b basic questions to you 3D gurus:

1. Is there any 3D modeling software that is like Adobe Illustrator in the way it's used? Being familiar with Illustrator, I think I'd find it less confusion.

2. What software(s) would you recommend, based on (in order of my importance) ability to create .obj and .stl printing files, user-friendliness, availability of resources (tutorials, user groups, etc.), standard software within the industry (I'm not going to learn something and then find there's no use for it outside a personal studio!) and cost?

I've looked at a few CAD packages, Blender, 3ds Max, Maya... result: confusion. Image

My goal? Print some bits and bobs for my B9, of course.

lynn johnson
Posts: 79
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:42 pm

Re: 3D Modeling

Post by lynn johnson » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:33 pm

i agree with bob VLC is better hands down

Muldokken


To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
From: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 09:50:46 -0700
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling

 
Windows Media Player is pretty terrible.  If you're not running VLC (completely free), you're doing it wrong!  ;-)   Seriously, download VLC and check it out.  
-Bob
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 10:28 PM, David Reabe dar19904@yahoo.com [B9Builders] wrote:
 
I keep getting a reminder to upgrade to windows 10,but I keep ignoring it! One problem is that Windows media player will not work with windows 10. So How do you pay what you have on your computer?



On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:40 PM, "'Bobby Clark' bclark@airmail.net [B9Builders]" wrote:


  Interesting.  I will need to check that out.  So far, I have not been forced to update, but they are now trying to trick you in to updating and if updates are set to automatic, it just does it.  Bummer.
Bobby   ----- Original Message ----- From: faqall@sssnet.com%20[B9Builders] To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:24 AM Subject: RE: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling
  I don t know if this would help but when the nice people at Microsoft updated my OS from windows 8.1 to windows 10 for free, and without my permission, it came with a free 3D modeling program called 3D Builder ( 3D Builder Windows Apps on Microsoft Store ) I don t know if it s any good or not because I am not smart enough to figure out how to use it, but you can t beat the price. Jim Rauch B9-0355 From: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:B9Builders@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 10:09 PM
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [B9Builders] 3D Modeling   OK, it's gotten to that point. I've *always* wanted to learn 3D modeling; now with 3D printing finally coming of age, it's time.

Some really n00b basic questions to you 3D gurus:

1. Is there any 3D modeling software that is like Adobe Illustrator in the way it's used? Being familiar with Illustrator, I think I'd find it less confusion.

2. What software(s) would you recommend, based on (in order of my importance) ability to create .obj and .stl printing files, user-friendliness, availability of resources (tutorials, user groups, etc.), standard software within the industry (I'm not going to learn something and then find there's no use for it outside a personal studio!) and cost?

I've looked at a few CAD packages, Blender, 3ds Max, Maya... result: confusion. Image

My goal? Print some bits and bobs for my B9, of course.

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